Top Talent in each region?
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Beck will be a senior this season.
http://www.hudl.com/profile/4356570/coleton-beck
Beck is originally from Bluefield also.
They both have serious wheels.
http://www.hudl.com/profile/4495481/taymon-cooke
http://www.hudl.com/profile/4356570/coleton-beck
Beck is originally from Bluefield also.
They both have serious wheels.
http://www.hudl.com/profile/4495481/taymon-cooke
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Just in Beck finish 2nd in the Nation in the 100m at Nationals. Ran a 10.41 in finals.
You can watch the finals on the link below.
http://www.nbnationalsout.com/eprofile.php?event_id=3689&do=videos&video_id=212792
You can watch the finals on the link below.
http://www.nbnationalsout.com/eprofile.php?event_id=3689&do=videos&video_id=212792
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thanks for sharing. Im just now checking these out. WOW!!! That kid got wheels!!!! Amazing! That one kid that won that 100 though?!!!! Kid had rocket jet fuel in him.
Ryan4VT
VaPreps Varsity
Really excited to call his games this season on ESPN Blacksburg with Paul VanWagoner.
Well, every game except the one at Richlands.
Heck, 4.29 is amazing for a kid or an adult anywhere! That is world class speed. Not many guys in the NFL are that fast. Sub 4.5 is elite speed so sub 4.4 is even more rare and elite!
Tennessee had actually offered him back in January. I see a lot of social media posts of recruits posting their "official offers" from the schools this week. I guess that's a new thing.
Mitchell narrowed his top 5 down a few weeks back. It's between-
Tennessee
Duke
South Carolina
Georgia
Virginia Tech
Ryan4VT
VaPreps Varsity
They offer them a scholarship, but they can't give them the official version until the first day of their senior year, which is Aug 1.
"And then, there were the dumb amongst us." Graves had to cover Mitchell for one second as Appo's DL was in Union's backfield. Mitchell is an All-American type High School player and Graves is a great high schooler/Div 3 type player. Different level. With that written, Appo has a BUNCH of Div 3 type players and 1, maybe two FCS/Div 1 AA type players and this equals state titles. Union has a lot of good high school players, but one elite, All American type player which equals, final 8 of the state and out of the playoffs. Still, Mitchell is special. You are a fool for thinking otherwise and yes, stars do matters. 247 sports did an article 2 years ago about stars. 5 star players are more likely to play in the NFL and star at the Div 1 level. 4 stars are more likely than 3 stars to do the same thing, then 3, then 2, etc. Sure, there are exceptions to each and every individual player, but by in large and over the long haul when looking at thousands of recruits, stars actually, and proven statistically-this means.....facts....., DO MATTER. This is why Graves is not a 4 star and High School All American. Again, no argument on team against team if that is where you want to take the argument, but Mitchell and Graves....no contest. P.S. Facts, data, and recruiting services say you are wrong and you have no choice to take the argument to "team vs team" because there is no argument for a good high school football player in Graves against an All-American Type player in Mitchell. Keep in mind.....the original post was about Mitchell and then Graves, not Appo vs Union. Those are two different arguments, but you can only muddy the two because just like there is no argument in favor of Union vs Appo, there is no argument in favor of "Graves," lol, vs Mitchell.
Just to make you aware, the Graves kid is not just a good HS player, D3 level athlete. ESPN top 300 4 star, and 3 star from other services. Committed to NC State after sophomore year. Possibly kept him from getting more exposure if he shut down recruiting, but sites show offers from VT, Tenn, UVA too.
Mitchell is 4 star from rivals and scout, 3 star by ESPN. He has several more offers, could be because more schools like Mitchell or Graves shut down recruiting, I don't know, I don't give out offers. Mitchell is at best a slightly more touted college prospect.
That was one of the Lynchburg area games I attended last year, and Graves was head and shoulders the better player in that game offensively, defensively, and athletically. Mitchell was a non factor after a long screen pass was called back for a penalty early in the game. Mitchell may have been sick or hurt, because he didn't do much and barely was noticed. Everytime Mitchell split out wide, Appomattox put Graves on him one on one, and Graves won the matchup every time.
After watching that game in person, the best football player Union had was a hard hitting safety, saved a bunch of big plays when Appomattox backs broke through the line. I think he was their top RB too. He was the only Union player that stood out consistently against Appomattox. That kid was one of the better football players I saw all year.
Mitchell is 4 star from rivals and scout, 3 star by ESPN. He has several more offers, could be because more schools like Mitchell or Graves shut down recruiting, I don't know, I don't give out offers. Mitchell is at best a slightly more touted college prospect.
That was one of the Lynchburg area games I attended last year, and Graves was head and shoulders the better player in that game offensively, defensively, and athletically. Mitchell was a non factor after a long screen pass was called back for a penalty early in the game. Mitchell may have been sick or hurt, because he didn't do much and barely was noticed. Everytime Mitchell split out wide, Appomattox put Graves on him one on one, and Graves won the matchup every time.
After watching that game in person, the best football player Union had was a hard hitting safety, saved a bunch of big plays when Appomattox backs broke through the line. I think he was their top RB too. He was the only Union player that stood out consistently against Appomattox. That kid was one of the better football players I saw all year.
I saw where Graves has offers from UVA, VT, and NC State. Mitchell has MANY MORE and is ranked higher on average by the recruiting services and is a High School All American by one. The lie you Appo fans are telling is, Union had no time to throw the ball. Graves had to cover him for 1 second. That's the part you are not telling and when doing so, a little bit disingenuous. Lastly, TE's also block, not just play Gronk and catch the ball. Mitchell blocks well, but again, Appo was in the backfield when the ball was given to the Union tailback far before the kid could get close to the line of scrimmage or around the offensive line. Graves is a good player, but he's no Mitchell, and you are using "team vs team" arguments to argue in favor of Graves and that doesn't work. It's the reason a kid like Mitchell will end up at a Clemson, Tennessee, or Florida State, and not an NC State. Not that NC State is bad, but again, it's not on the level of the 3 above.
Heard Graves got some discussion from Clemson the other day. Not sure what level or how true it is but I heard that.
Mitchell might have been sick that night but that #9 for them was the best "player" on that team that night. That boy ran HARD and hit harder on defense.
Mitchell didn't even seem to be in the top 3, maybe 4 athletes on the field that night.
That night it appeared he played "heartless".
Appo kicked off right to him each time that night and I don't think he brought it back past the 20 all night. Looked as if he wanted nothing to do with those guys flying down field.
Better athlete than Graves...possible. Head and shoulder better... no.
That's the only game I saw him play so that is all I have to go on. Like I said, maybe he was sick. I'd pick #9 to be on my team any day.
Mitchell might have been sick that night but that #9 for them was the best "player" on that team that night. That boy ran HARD and hit harder on defense.
Mitchell didn't even seem to be in the top 3, maybe 4 athletes on the field that night.
That night it appeared he played "heartless".
Appo kicked off right to him each time that night and I don't think he brought it back past the 20 all night. Looked as if he wanted nothing to do with those guys flying down field.
Better athlete than Graves...possible. Head and shoulder better... no.
That's the only game I saw him play so that is all I have to go on. Like I said, maybe he was sick. I'd pick #9 to be on my team any day.
It's not about "that night." It's about who is the best overall player, and experts, literally.......people that set down 40 hours per week, write about, see, watch, and travel to study recruits for a job 40 hours per week have a consensus. That consensus is...Mitchell is the best player on both squads. Again, disagree if you wish, but the data we have to judge recruits says different. The post was about...."top talent in each regions." It was not, "who looked or played the best in the Appo vs Union game." That's not the argument. That's not the title or message from the subject or title of the very first post in the thread. As for Graves, if he gets looks at Clemson and ends up somewhere like that, then no doubt, that's BIGtime.
Well even NFL teams draft "busts"that go no where.
On paper you might be able to check off all the boxes of a 4 star recruit but, like I said on that night, he was upstaged by Appomattox players and even players on his own team.
True we are talking top talent. I'm just saying the night I got to watch him he didn't show much of anything. When the "tough got going, he jumped ship".
Like I said, maybe he played sick and wasn't himself. That is possible.
On paper you might be able to check off all the boxes of a 4 star recruit but, like I said on that night, he was upstaged by Appomattox players and even players on his own team.
True we are talking top talent. I'm just saying the night I got to watch him he didn't show much of anything. When the "tough got going, he jumped ship".
Like I said, maybe he played sick and wasn't himself. That is possible.
Nope, you are not paying attention. You gave the exceptions to the rules and their are exceptions to all rules, or outliers, but once again, by in large, EVEN in the NFL, the guys picked in the first round are MORE likely go to the Hall of Fame. Guess what, the second rounders are more likely to go to the Hall of Fame and start on an NFL then the third rounders and so on. That doesn't mean a 7th rounder will not be all world and go to the NFL Hall of Fame. That happens, but it happens FAR LESS than a first rounder doing it.<<<<----that's the exception. The law of averages still holds true and this applies with 5 star, 4 star, and 3 star recruits. Its sounds good, it feels good when we hear statements like, "recruiting stars are stupid" and "those recruiters don't have a clue", and "stars don't mean much." These statements make us feel good, but they are not accurate. In fact, stars DO mean much. Recruiters by in large, are NOT stupid. Facts and data and stats over the long haul tell us that. The prove that. They support that.
Keep an eye out for Buckingham freshman rb/qb Gerry Toney big and fast.
What game was you at? Maybe you need to get some tape of the game. You wasnt at the Union vs Appo game.
SMH, maybe you need to do some research before you type ignorant statements like this. You too puffed up claiming that Mitchell has this and that...but you forgot to research Graves before typing this. He shut down recruiting after NC State. He had Clemson, Notre Dame, VT, UVA, LU and probably 10 other D1 schools come to try to flip him.
Im done with this guy. Im looking at you as a troll now. Yall (appo fans) stop entertaining him. He on here just to stir strife and rattle cages.
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