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Trouble at Hayfield

So what’s the big fuss still about — the season is about to start in approximately one week. They have had a team established and been practicing/scrimmaging already so I’m pretty sure the roster is set for the season, if the rules have been bent I’m sure they have dotted every I and crossed every T before they open regular season play (administration all the way down). At the end of the day you still gotta beat them within the white lines.
 
Nothing can happen til a live game! Keep supporting that thief and bully! The man is a con artist fraud! Can’t wait for the legal system to bust that punk!
Love how me laughing at your outlandish comments means I support some random coach that you hate. I’m gonna guess you didn’t earn a UVA degree and you’re just a fan.
 
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According to Overton Sr. On Twitter, the investigation is over and no wrong doing has been found
General172011, why don’t you consider participating in pick-em that Mike Salem handles. It’s a lot of fun.

If the investigation is over and they found “ZERO” wrongdoing, then the investigation is tainted. You mean to tell me that 15+ players and families all decided to up and move from the Freedom High School area, and all just happened to chose to live in the Hayfield High School area? Wow, what a coincidence. And every single new address checks out legitimately? That is utterly amazing.
 
General172011, why don’t you consider participating in pick-em that Mike Salem handles. It’s a lot of fun.

If the investigation is over and they found “ZERO” wrongdoing, then the investigation is tainted. You mean to tell me that 15+ players and families all decided to up and move from the Freedom High School area, and all just happened to chose to live in the Hayfield High School area? Wow, what a coincidence. And every single new address checks out legitimately? That is utterly amazing.
I am, I’ve been going back and forth on games since the post came up just haven’t picked Post Reply yet
 
Not defending Hayfield but again there’s other programs in the 757/804/540 doing the same exact thing. This is a VHSL issue as a whole.
 
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General172011, why don’t you consider participating in pick-em that Mike Salem handles. It’s a lot of fun.

If the investigation is over and they found “ZERO” wrongdoing, then the investigation is tainted. You mean to tell me that 15+ players and families all decided to up and move from the Freedom High School area, and all just happened to chose to live in the Hayfield High School area? Wow, what a coincidence. And every single new address checks out legitimately? That is utterly amazing.
I am not from the area so no direct ties to any of this. That being said, did the investigation really resolve anything or did it just create more? A few things to ask:
(1) What were the steps and results in the internal investigation? Why was an external investigation delayed until the completion of the internal review?
(2) What were the criteria used in selecting the outside firm to perform an external investigation?
(3)Who were the 19 witnesses interviewed? When and how were the home visits conducted? Given that allegations point to 15 or more kids, how many of the 19 witnesses were those kids and/or their parents/guardians?

Just a little food for thought. I am sure those closer to the situation will have more.
 
Does Fairfax County manage the rest of their affairs the way they managed this investigation?
You decide.
 

You decide.
The question was rhetorical. ;-)
 
I am not from the area so no direct ties to any of this. That being said, did the investigation really resolve anything or did it just create more? A few things to ask:
(1) What were the steps and results in the internal investigation? Why was an external investigation delayed until the completion of the internal review?
(2) What were the criteria used in selecting the outside firm to perform an external investigation?
(3)Who were the 19 witnesses interviewed? When and how were the home visits conducted? Given that allegations point to 15 or more kids, how many of the 19 witnesses were those kids and/or their parents/guardians?

Just a little food for thought. I am sure those closer to the situation will have more.

 
Thanks for the link. Not really sure that sways things much but, it did provide more info than initially put forth, including the seven visits on 15 minutes notice. It will be interesting to see what else comes out.
 
I'm thinking the opposing student sections in Fairfax Co. are going to let Hayfield have it this season. They have plenty of material to work with now. 😂
 
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But but but what about Highland Springs… what about Oscar Smith… what about….
Highland Springs obviously does it the legal way because 12 players from hayfield have been suspended for tonight‘s game by VHSL
 
12 players were brought into the office at hayfield today and told by VHSL that they are not eligible for tonight’s game
Are you serious or just poking fun? That sounds totally out of character and inconsistent with past VHSL practices. IF, and I do mean IF, what you relay is actually true then FCPS(to borrow from Ricky Ricardo) has some 'splainin to do.
 
Are you serious or just poking fun? That sounds totally out of character and inconsistent with past VHSL practices. IF, and I do mean IF, what you relay is actually true then FCPS(to borrow from Ricky Ricardo) has some 'splainin to do.
Dead serious! I got the information at about 430 this evening.
 
Reactionary moves from the VHSL are embarrassing.

Honestly, raise taxes, hire people, and turn every school upside-down and inside-out. If you're playing ball in a place other than where your head hits the pillow at night (and has been hitting that pillow for years) then you're out a year, your team is suspended a season and on probation for ten. Every student, every sport. Top to bottom audits from Oscar Smith to Wise County. Gonna be a lot of casualties but I'm prepared to make those sacrifices for all of you so when 2025 rolls around, everyone is on the up-and-up. Gonna be a lot of broken eggs for this omelet but that's OK, we'll all eat well on an empty stomach and a good conscious.

Get all the cockroaches in the light, let's see which fans squirm away when they can't stomach the results.
 
Reactionary moves from the VHSL are embarrassing.

Honestly, raise taxes, hire people, and turn every school upside-down and inside-out. If you're playing ball in a place other than where your head hits the pillow at night (and has been hitting that pillow for years) then you're out a year, your team is suspended a season and on probation for ten. Every student, every sport. Top to bottom audits from Oscar Smith to Wise County. Gonna be a lot of casualties but I'm prepared to make those sacrifices for all of you so when 2025 rolls around, everyone is on the up-and-up. Gonna be a lot of broken eggs for this omelet but that's OK, we'll all eat well on an empty stomach and a good conscious.

Get all the cockroaches in the light, let's see which fans squirm away when they can't stomach the results.
VHSL gave Fairfax County schools the opportunity to do the right thing,and they failed miserably. Now,you have 15 players that worked all summer,but didn’t think they had to follow the relocation rules,and now they’re reportedly suspended the ENTIRE SEASON by VHSL,pending appeal at the district,region,and state level.
 
VHSL gave Fairfax County schools the opportunity to do the right thing,and they failed miserably. Now,you have 15 players that worked all summer,but didn’t think they had to follow the relocation rules,and now they’re reportedly suspended the ENTIRE SEASON by VHSL,pending appeal at the district,region,and state level.
I see this and I believe you, but is there any other corroboration or denial?
 
Would love to see any confirmation of the story. Even HooSprings’ attorney commenting would be welcome!
 
Would love to see any confirmation of the story. Even HooSprings’ attorney commenting would be welcome!
They are not my attorneys! Fairfax County had an obligation to properly investigate each and every player that was involved in this mass transfer. This is not just about transferring to another school when it involves multiple levels of wrongdoing. There were issues with bullying, which is strongly disparaged this day and age, whether people like it or not. There were issues with players being charged to play football for a public high school team, and told if they did not like it, they needed to transfer to another school. Fairfax County failed in doing a proper investigation and VHSL took over. VHSL took enough flack after the John Marshall situation and they knew with all of the public news medias involved that this could not go unresolved. More than 20 players mysteriously moved into that school district from other schools, that just happened to be star players at other schools,and for some reason, people don’t find that mysterious. Players move and transfer all the time. You had parents involved,and I mean parents with money!!! That is a super super liberal area and you know, as well as I do,that those parents were not gonna stand for their kids being bullied. VHSL could not do anything until Fairfax County had announced their decision,and that decision had to be announced before the first game played by hayfield. Hayfield’s athletic Director and principal were given ample opportunity to take care of this matter before it even went to Fairfax County, and neither the administration at Hayfield and Fairfax County did anything. maybe you should call hayfield and ask why they didn’t further Investigate this Coach and the situation? That cocky bastard thought he was gonna laugh in the face of VHSL. Players were called into the office at noon yesterday and told they were ineligible.

These players have the ability to appeal, but it must go through every layer of the appeal process now! That includes hayfield high school, Fairfax County, the district, the region,and then finally VHSL!
 
The superintendent said at last night's FCPS board meeting that some of the transfers had not yet been ruled eligible.
 
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