If all you have a quarter of a brain anyone with common sense knows that children that break rules and laws do so under the direct leadership and direction of adults or by the examples set by such people with consequences for failing to do as they are told. I have moronic idiots like this in my own family. Haven't you ever asked yourself why Boeing airplanes fall out of the sky by the piece or in whole? Liars lying. These scumbags entire existence is based on the last lie that they have told and they never stop covering their tracks and lying. The sad thing is that these types are normally highly educated, highly connected with legitimate jobs and or positions, but with the morals of a filthy pig-dog and the finger pointing-accusation lodging skills of a world class Olympic archer. Don't blame or do harm to the children. Get your lying, crime ridden friends out of the Virginia school system and away from these children.

Scalvinscaliwag said:

I could definitely see that happening.

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Isn’t Jaishaun Offutt the Wake Forest commit? I believe he played basketball for the Judges as well last year. I went to some basketball games at Handley last basketball season when I lived close by the high school. I feel like I remember seeing him out there on the court but I could be mistaken.

Bucktown434 said:

Bleeding Navy- You need to stop bro! So if we decided to do a extensive deep dive journalistic approach on Billy Mills and Dinwiddie residents over the last 10 years, we will see that ALL them kids that came through that program was born and raised in Dinwiddie County???? I'm talking about never left the Petersburg, Colonial Heights, Prince George, Brunswick, South Hill jurisdictions to live with a grandmother, aunt, uncle, cousin, or friend to play football???? Stop it! My daddy always said. "The buzzards fly high, but they got to come down LOW TO EAT". Oh and why you ain't doing all this talking about Liberty Christian Academy and the Great Frank Rocco? These people are bringing in kids from North Carolina and New York. It's a difference. They got that million dollar establishment to fight the VHSL. That's the difference. It's called corruption. But you know what I'm not going to dive into all that on here. I've addressed the Elephant in the room, and I know deep down I have stirred alot of yall consciouses on here.

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If I may ask could you please tell me what transfers Dinwiddie got from Colonial Heights, PG, Brunswick 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, South Hill lmao 🤣. We got 3 transfers from Petersburg (2 of them moved back to Dinwiddie to finish High School) 1 transfer from Hopewell in 2014 and 1 from North Carolina in 2008. Transfers RARELY make it in Dinwiddie because they don’t work hard enough they can’t handle the culture! What you said sounded good tho lmao 😂😂😂😂😂😂 South Hill and Brunswick 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I agree @BoKnowsSports. Manchester had it's fair share several years ago. I even admitted in 2014 we had three players legally transfer to Dinwiddie for a variety of reasons. I just don't like the AAU type mentality (play where you want). There is no identified proof that Huguenot has done anything wrong. It just looks wonky. I agree we should not point fingers at any school until there is identified proof.

To be real, everything posted on this thread has been substantiated and according to the Fairfax News proven by a denied appeal. Hayfield is reportedly continuing to fight by appealing to the entire VHSL Board.

I get what @Bucktown434 is saying. Recruiting goes on in every good program, whether its player/coach/youth league coach initiated. I highly respect Billy Mills and Dinwiddie’s program and IMO he models what a high school program should look like. Many people did want to come cry wolf when Huguenot, Highland Springs, Freedom, Phoebus and Maury loaded up on talent. Often times we don’t hear a drop about Lord Botetourt (who’s had how many of Covington’s and Alegheny’s players), those Southside Richmond/ Chesterfield All Star teams at Manchester, Liberty Christian and Riverheads. We know good and well those teams were recruit heavy. Cheating is cheating and IMO, Hayfield got what they deserved. All I say is keep that same energy with other programs!

kwhs95fan said:

Huguenot might be the next to get caught. They were downtrodden for years and years, now magically overnight they're a state power. Pretty soon there will probably be a transfer portal in high school smh

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Fake news. Most of those kids are Southside kids who Tom Hall would’ve gotten at Manchester 3 years ago. Gotta stop with these narratives.

I’m guessing since we’re at Thursday of the next week no heavy punishments (like suspending all those who came on the field) or folding the programs or any of that is taking place.

Their schedule for sure has been soft all across the board. They haven’t played a team the caliber of Dinwiddie since playing Stone Bridge last year. They’re going to have a lot of confidence tho but how will they react if they go down 14-0 in Dinwiddie? At home, with the best player in the state, and one of the best HC in VHSL History and an extra day of prep….. give me Dinwiddie 28-7.

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Bucktown434 said:

Bleeding Navy- You need to stop bro! So if we decided to do a extensive deep dive journalistic approach on Billy Mills and Dinwiddie residents over the last 10 years, we will see that ALL them kids that came through that program was born and raised in Dinwiddie County???? I'm talking about never left the Petersburg, Colonial Heights, Prince George, Brunswick, South Hill jurisdictions to live with a grandmother, aunt, uncle, cousin, or friend to play football???? Stop it! My daddy always said. "The buzzards fly high, but they got to come down LOW TO EAT". Oh and why you ain't doing all this talking about Liberty Christian Academy and the Great Frank Rocco? These people are bringing in kids from North Carolina and New York. It's a difference. They got that million dollar establishment to fight the VHSL. That's the difference. It's called corruption. But you know what I'm not going to dive into all that on here. I've addressed the Elephant in the room, and I know deep down I have stirred alot of yall consciouses on here.

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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 omg this is HILARIOUS

Article just came out. Said Hayfield didn't win appeal.

@GoBlue2109, I agree with you about the general defense. Last year's Dinwiddie offense was very physical and I for one miss #5 Rafael Tucker. Our running game is not nearly as physical and this causes me some concern. Last year we just simply pounded Matoaca's big d line into submission. The Generals have the weapons to do it again, but I have no clue whether Mills will choose this path at this point in the season.

@BoKnowsSports, made several great points above and I must admit the Warriors have some studs on both sides of the ball. On paper one would give Matoaca the advantage, but Coach Mills always has our young men ready for Matoaca.

Dinwiddie cannot let Matoaca strike quick and get down early. Establishing the run and short passing game is the key to success. Dalton must be a force and run the ball with authority. The Dinwiddie defense must pressure the Matoaca qb, but keep him from eluding the pocket. Might have to pick our poison.

Dinwiddie has faced some very sound teams with talent equitable (or better) than Matoaca. The Warriors have not faced a team with the talent of the Generals and have not been punched back. It will be interesting to see how Matoaca responds.

If you play trends Mills is 15-4 against the Warriors and the Generals have not lost to Matoaca since 2015.

Both teams will be playing for the unofficial Central district championship and #1 seed in their respective regions. I look forward to a very emotional and physical contest. Maintaining a cool head may be the determining factor.

Both teams have the ability to get the job done. My biased and trend based prediction is a Dinwiddie win.

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I'm going Dinwiddie but a big part of that is just I don't believe in Matoaca. They went into the Dinwiddie game last year with chest poking out and got absolutely pounded. Also Dinwiddie's defense is very underrated. Those guys are athletic, fly to ball and look much better than last year.

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I would think the prime example Bucktown would look into is Huguenot. They literally brought in a boatload of players and not a single soul cared or has stopped and said how the hell did that happen.

With that being said the playoffs are basically here so lets move on from Hayfield who will be watching from the sidelines anyway. They got caught and still gloated about it. They got what they deserved.

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Hey @Bucktown434, read this. It's not gossip! Lol. Expose what? I will not shut up and will continue to advocate for doing right. Whether it's Dinwiddie, Hayfield, or any other programs who circumvents the rules.

I have spent 36 years encouraging all kids to work hard, do the right thing, and not take short cuts. I refuse to accept any other path other than to tell our youth that yes there are barriers and obstacles, but you can accomplish anything you desire. Enough said.

So I am at a point where I believe Hayfield will be disqualified from the playoffs. Posting this in the Hayfield thread is pointless with the way that is going. 😊

If they are exonerated, then the following is irrelevant.

What happens to the power points and standings?

1. Just leave everything the way it is and everyone in Region C moves up 1 spot.
2. Make all Hayfield games forfeits, basically would give every opponent 3 more power points. ( A loss to HF would be 14+9 pts and a win vs a winless team is 26+0)
3. Make all games against HF a no-contest and all opponents only have 9 games and divide the points gained in other contests and divide by 9.

For #2 above: all opponents would gain 3 pts divided by 10 =.3 rating boost.
For #3 above and using Chantilly as an example as they stand now, they would move up from the 10th seed to 9. Current a bump of .375 on rating.
Also in #2 the opponents-opponents would get bonus points, Chantilly would be 5-4, so following Chantilly as an example Westfield would have 2 more points, giving them a much more likely path to pass Langley for the 3 seed.

Honestly probably will not make a difference, and I’m not sure if there is any precedence, but it could matter.

SV-Viking4 said:

All I keep hearing is "Everyone else is doing it" and not "we didnt do it."

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Naw that's because you have "Selective Hearing or Listening". That's what is called my guy. Once again. I'm not justifying Hayfield actions. I'm simply stating that when I see certain verbiage used, underlying racism and attacks on here, I can read subliminal catch phases and statements. And it's alot of that going on in here. This debacle is deeper than transfers and creating a competitive disadvantage in high school. It's alot of people in here should keep their mouth closed, because if people start digging into their respective programs, they will BE EXPOSED!

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Bucktown434 said:

Yall are some sad bitter individuals. Old men sitting around gossiping about information that doesn't pertain to you or your programs. So we go act like Dinwiddie ain't getting no kids from the Petersburg or Brunswick surrounding county area??? Stop it.

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It is not really gossip when discussing publicly available reports backed with evidence. You throw around a lot of allegations but, if you have proof, why not make a public complaint? When people call something racist, sexist, whatever, be it in sports, politics, or other they are more often than not looking to deflect because they cannot dispute the facts, evidence and/or results in a more relevant manner.

All I keep hearing is "Everyone else is doing it" and not "we didnt do it."