2020 Coach Madness Final - Bedwell v. Johnson

[CRF4Dan]

Coach Bedwell has reached the Finals eliminating Coach Carol Richards, Coach Glen Schrotenboer, Coach Tom Call, Coach Jim Woodson and then Coach Billy Mills by an average of
65% of the vote.

Coach David Bedwell has won everywhere he's been. He coached at Henrico from 1997-1999 guiding the Warriors to the 1999 Class 5 Final before taking the job at LC Bird. At LC Bird of course he won multiple region titles and was a 3-time state champion from 2012-2014. Bedwell has a career playoff record of 30-15 to go with the state titles and now he is at Hermitage where he looks to build on his record of 201-43.


Coach Loren Johnson has reached the Finals by eliminating Coach Jerry Carter, Coach John Trott, Coach Ed Bulheller, Coach Gary Chilcoat and Coach Ray Long by an average of 81% of the vote.

Loren Johnson is still writing his story but it is quite the story thus far. 4 state titles, 1 of only 3 coaches to do so in the state and the first in the Richmond Region to do so. He took a Springers program that was always a contender and turned them into the team to beat and a team coaches model their programs after. 12 seasons on the job Coach Johnson has never had a losing season, has made the playoffs 9 times and is an astounding 22-5 in said playoffs. 125-22 record at Highland Springs and he is not done yet.

Bedwell and Johnson have faced one another 3 times with Bedwell taking 2 of those 3 meetings.

 

[iDidntGetBanned]

Dave Bedwell. H A N D S DOWN! Nuff said!

 

[CRF4Dan]

Dave Bedwell. H A N D S DOWN! Nuff said!

Not saying you're right or wrong but I'd love to hear your argument for the hands down side of your stance.

 

[iDidntGetBanned]

Not saying you're right or wrong but I'd love to hear your argument for the hands down side of your stance.

If Loren Johnson retired tomorrow, he’d automatically be a shoe in for the VHSL Hall of Fame. He’s one of the best to ever do it and by no means am I taking any shots at his legacy. I pick Dave Bedwell because he’s won every where he’s been at. He has also coached probably 275+ college players and college coaches know that his players will succeed at the next level (same can be said about Johnson). I’ll say it like this.. Henrico was pretty damn good when Bedwell was there. They went how many years before they even made the playoffs after he left? Bird isn’t even in the same discussion in terms of powerhouse that they were in when Bedwell was there. Not feared anymore by any means. If Johnson left and went to the college ranks (which I totally believe he should have that opportunity), I don’t think HS would drop off much. Both are legends, I (and a lot of 804 football fans) will make the same argument that Bedwell is the GOAT.

 

[springer76]

If Loren Johnson retired tomorrow, he’d automatically be a shoe in for the VHSL Hall of Fame. He’s one of the best to ever do it and by no means am I taking any shots at his legacy. I pick Dave Bedwell because he’s won every where he’s been at. He has also coached probably 275+ college players and college coaches know that his players will succeed at the next level (same can be said about Johnson). I’ll say it like this.. Henrico was pretty damn good when Bedwell was there. They went how many years before they even made the playoffs after he left? Bird isn’t even in the same discussion in terms of powerhouse that they were in when Bedwell was there. Not feared anymore by any means. If Johnson left and went to the college ranks (which I totally believe he should have that opportunity), I don’t think HS would drop off much. Both are legends, I (and a lot of 804 football fans) will make the same argument that Bedwell is the GOAT.

As much as I really hate to mention it, but.... Bedwell now carries "baggage" and a black eye on his resume'....

 

[iDidntGetBanned]

As much as I really hate to mention it, but.... Bedwell now carries "baggage" and a black eye on his resume'....

Can’t judge him, none of us were there and certainly don’t have the facts. A lot of us have done wayyyyy worse of what he was ACCUSED of. Only facts we have is how many kids he’s positively impacted and how many games this man has won. He’s a winner.

 

[springer76]

Can’t judge him, none of us were there and certainly don’t have the facts. A lot of us have done wayyyyy worse of what he was ACCUSED of. Only facts we have is how many kids he’s positively impacted and how many games this man has won. He’s a winner.

Ummm, he plead GUILTY! ...and spent 2 months in jail. We didn't have to be there, it hit the news big time and we all saw and heard exactly what happened.... maybe you forgot...I've heard that lots of people thought he was a "little bit" dishonest then (at Bird), low and behold, he got caught and proved it.
https://www.nbc12.com/2019/08/22/former-lc-bird-athletic-director-charged-with-embezzlement/

 

[iDidntGetBanned]

Ummm, he plead GUILTY! ...and spent 2 months in jail. We didn't have to be there, it hit the news big time and we all saw and heard exactly what happened.... maybe you forgot...I've heard that lots of people thought he was a "little bit" dishonest then (at Bird), low and behold, he got caught and proved it.
https://www.nbc12.com/2019/08/22/former-lc-bird-athletic-director-charged-with-embezzlement/

The Central Park 5 pleaded guilty too. Just saying...You definitely don’t have a clue and it’s a damn shame you brought this man’s personal life up. Your pastor has more than likely done wayyyy worst.

 

[springer76]

The Central Park 5 pleaded guilty too. Just saying...You definitely don’t have a clue and it’s a damn shame you brought this man’s personal life up. Your pastor has more than likely done wayyyy worst.

Yep..

 

[springer76]

Yep..

The Central Park 5 pleaded guilty too. Just saying...You definitely don’t have a clue and it’s a damn shame you brought this man’s personal life up. Your pastor has more than likely done wayyyy worst.

The good part of this for Coach Bedwell is, he is still Coach Bedwell and he has retained his job at Hermitage. In essence, he is just about as lucky as the Central Park 5 (except he didn't get 41 million dollars). Don't get me wrong, Coach Bedwell is one helluva football coach and he will bring Hermitage back to prominence. Based on coaching talent, I'd say they are nearly the same. I hope HS and Herm renew the rivalry in the near future!

 

[springer76]

So... is Coach J the champ of this tournament of coaches?

 

[iDidntGetBanned]

It’s more HS fans on the board than Herm or anyone that would care about this poll.

 

[springer76]

It’s more HS fans on the board than Herm or anyone that would care about this poll.

IDidntGetBanned, you've got nothing but excuses. The answer to my question that I posted, I already knew! I just want to know when CRFDan was going to make it official!

 

[iDidntGetBanned]

IDidntGetBanned, you've got nothing but excuses. The answer to my question that I posted, I already knew! I just want to know when CRFDan was going to make it official!

It’s a fact though. I got nothing but respect and love for Dan, but let’s bring this poll to Twitter and see who wins. As far as my excuses (???), you’ve got nothing but ill will for Bedwell. You don’t see anyone getting on here and posting dirt on any of your Highland Springs coaches.. SHAME ON YOU! Nobody posts anything negative about your team, but you and the other HS fan always have IGNORANT SH*T to say about other teams! Your HS coaches and players are nothing but class! You and “your buddy” should take note. I get that Bedwell has beaten your team A LOT and you dislike him, but you’ve gone low!

 

[springer76]

It’s a fact though. I got nothing but respect and love for Dan, but let’s bring this poll to Twitter and see who wins. As far as my excuses (???), you’ve got nothing but ill will for Bedwell. You don’t see anyone getting on here and posting dirt on any of your Highland Springs coaches.. SHAME ON YOU! Nobody posts anything negative about your team, but you and the other HS fan always have IGNORANT SH*T to say about other teams! Your HS coaches and players are nothing but class! You and “your buddy” should take note. I get that Bedwell has beaten your team A LOT and you dislike him, but you’ve gone low!

I've learned in my life not to try talking sense to complete idiots. I should just agree to defuse the nonsense. So, you are right! Have a good day!

 

[CRF4Dan]

IDidntGetBanned, you've got nothing but excuses. The answer to my question that I posted, I already knew! I just want to know when CRFDan was going to make it official!

It is official. Your coach won the whole thing.

 

[CRF4Dan]

It’s a fact though. I got nothing but respect and love for Dan, but let’s bring this poll to Twitter and see who wins. As far as my excuses (???), you’ve got nothing but ill will for Bedwell. You don’t see anyone getting on here and posting dirt on any of your Highland Springs coaches.. SHAME ON YOU! Nobody posts anything negative about your team, but you and the other HS fan always have IGNORANT SH*T to say about other teams! Your HS coaches and players are nothing but class! You and “your buddy” should take note. I get that Bedwell has beaten your team A LOT and you dislike him, but you’ve gone low!

Appreciate the love and respect but even on Twitter I believe Coach Johnson would come out on top. I could have run a dual poll on both VP and Twitter but I wanted to keep as much on VP as possible.

 

[iDidntGetBanned]

I've learned in my life not to try talking sense to complete idiots. I should just agree to defuse the nonsense. So, you are right! Have a good day!

I know I am right. If I disagreed with you or thought you were a complete idiot, I’d never like your post, just saying. Conversation over though. If you weren’t so old, I’d think Bedwell took your woman or something

 

[springer76]

I know I am right. If I disagreed with you or thought you were a complete idiot, I’d never like your post, just saying. Conversation over though. If you weren’t so old, I’d think Bedwell took your woman or something

That's funny! You're okay man, I apologize for insinuating you as an idiot. Clearly you're not. Just maybe HS and Hermitage will meet in the playoffs soon. Just beware.... HS has the potential to be a beast again! They will be loaded again.

 

[mbonape1]

I agree I would give it to LJ but at @iDidntGetBanned made a VERY GOOD point about Birds fall from grace after Bedwell left verses what would happen if LJ took another job. I think HS would miss him but I still think they would have a lot of success. It would be interesting to see what would happen if he took over another area team like Bedwell has and made them instantly contenders.

while I find that point interesting... 4x in a row gives LJ the nod.

All we need now is for Patrick Kane to be hired by Bird. Wouldn’t that be amazingly perfect and ironic!

 

[CRF4Dan]

I agree I would give it to LJ but at @iDidntGetBanned made a VERY GOOD point about Birds fall from grace after Bedwell left verses what would happen if LJ took another job. I think HS would miss him but I still think they would have a lot of success. It would be interesting to see what would happen if he took over another area team like Bedwell has and made them instantly contenders.

while I find that point interesting... 4x in a row gives LJ the nod.

All we need now is for Patrick Kane to be hired by Bird. Wouldn’t that be amazingly perfect and ironic!

If and when Coach Johnson leaves Highland Springs I do not think it would be for another high school job but rather a college position. If he did take another high school job I gotta believe it would be for the challenge of building up another program.

The narrative on Bedwell could change if he proves unsuccessful at Hermitage but that is a big IF. In my opinion that won't happen. I think he will be successful at Hermitage which would put Bedwell in a class all to himself as someone to have taken three programs in the region and guided them to heights never reached before. For Hermitage that would mean winning a state title being as they did play in a state title game in 2010.

 

[iDidntGetBanned]

If and when Coach Johnson leaves Highland Springs I do not think it would be for another high school job but rather a college position. If he did take another high school job I gotta believe it would be for the challenge of building up another program.

The narrative on Bedwell could change if he proves unsuccessful at Hermitage but that is a big IF. In my opinion that won't happen. I think he will be successful at Hermitage which would put Bedwell in a class all to himself as someone to have taken three programs in the region and guided them to heights never reached before. For Hermitage that would mean winning a state title being as they did play in a state title game in 2010.

Dave Bedwell will be successful, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT!