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[VolNation85]

This thread is about to take a turn for the worst. Might to time to lock it up.

It’s not going to take a turn for the worst unless the other person does. I’m not bothered by some comments from an anonymous person. That’s what happens when someone is only interested in spreading lies and misinformation instead of the truth.

I clearly and concisely explained what I know about LCA. They decided to try and attack me personally because they had nothing else to offer to the LCA conversation. Notice he didn’t even attempt to address anything I said about LCA. LOL

 

[VolNation85]

What's Martinsburg---Salem Scheduled them and they are way outside the area.

Martinsburg has approximately 1,400 schools. They are classified as C4 in Virginia. Salem usually schedules quality teams OOD but they are always Class 3 or Class 4, not C5 or C6.

 

[VolNation85]

Know exactly who you are. Also know you know about recruiting seeing as there are still several Amherst administrators with copies of texts you sent to certain players to try to get them to come to your school where you were defensive coordinator if not for that you would have gotten Amherst head job. Family or not.

Ran out of misinformation about LCA? Great job trying to change the topic. We were discussing LCA. Let’s try to stay on the topic at hand. It’s okay if you don’t have anything else to offer to the conversation.

 

[rainman17]

OK how about the girls team that won the state last year? Two best players had committed to Liberty U. One from Greensboro & one from San Diego. Also doesn't take a bunch of high profile kids to stack a team in high school?

The bottom caveat…they don’t just participate in 3 sports but I grasp what you’re getting at but it’s honestly no different than a team having the best local players team up and play together. I honestly get the point y’all are saying but it’s you all taking a magnifying glass on the let’s say 7 state championships in VHSL since they’ve joined…and ignoring the other seasons like they never happened.

 

[ThevinStealberg]

The bottom caveat…they don’t just participate in 3 sports but I grasp what you’re getting at but it’s honestly no different than a team having the best local players team up and play together. I honestly get the point y’all are saying but it’s you all taking a magnifying glass on the let’s say 7 state championships in VHSL since they’ve joined…and ignoring the other seasons like they never happened.

Exactly!! Looking at things holistically is the best approach but you know how folks like to wake up looking for an argument....

 

[catchtds]

Please inform me about these high profile kids that are being funneled to LCA by Liberty. Liberty currently has the 102 ranked recruiting class in football so all those impact players coming to little old Lynchburg must be overlooked or under ranked…some of yall really just be talking to say anything and hope somebody else agrees.

If we are speaking of other sports again let’s count titles and I haven’t seen LCA secure many since they’ve been in the public realm, I’ve seen them make some title games but surprise some teams are just better than the one they play and they (LCA) lost.

They can barely field a softball team

 

[champ2408]

Ran out of misinformation about LCA? Great job trying to change the topic. We were discussing LCA. Let’s try to stay on the topic at hand. It’s okay if you don’t have anything else to offer to the conversation.

Already named several. Read the thread. If you want more ok. If you want pictures of them in other uniforms last year ok. We can do all that.

 

[VolNation85]

Already named several. Read the thread. If you want more ok. If you want pictures of them in other uniforms last year ok. We can do all that.

So I take that as a "yes" to my question of you running out of misinformation? 🤣 We know that you can Google player's social media info. You already told us that. But again, no one is denying that they have transfers on their team and will most likely have some each year the school is in existence. You, nor anyone else, has ever provided any evidence that the coaches are recruiting players; just opinions and public knowledge that some players transferred in. But don't worry, they will not be as dominant in the near future. Gideon and Easton have already enrolled at Clemson and there are rumors of Coach Rocco retiring.

Did it ever cross your mind that perhaps people from out of state move to the area for work and choose to put their kids at LCA because they have great academics, great athletics, it's Christian based, and it's affordable? Or that parents of local athletes want those things for their kids too? But I get it. I used to believe the same things that I heard until I actually had kid's there and actually got to know people in the program. Then I realized most of what I heard simply wasn't true.

 

[wikki]

Want to wager that LCA won’t win the basketball title in boys hoops?

They’re currently undefeated now

 

[champ2408]

So I take that as a "yes" to my question of you running out of misinformation? 🤣 We know that you can Google player's social media info. You already told us that. But again, no one is denying that they have transfers on their team and will most likely have some each year the school is in existence. You, nor anyone else, has ever provided any evidence that the coaches are recruiting players; just opinions and public knowledge that some players transferred in. But don't worry, they will not be as dominant in the near future. Gideon and Easton have already enrolled at Clemson and there are rumors of Coach Rocco retiring.

Did it ever cross your mind that perhaps people from out of state move to the area for work and choose to put their kids at LCA because they have great academics, great athletics, it's Christian based, and it's affordable? Or that parents of local athletes want those things for their kids too? But I get it. I used to believe the same things that I heard until I actually had kid's there and actually got to know people in the program. Then I realized most of what I heard simply wasn't true.

So according to you. If someone commits a crime whether it be theft or homicide and they Have no evidence themselves, it means it didn’t happen? Funny thing is. You never talk to their players they will tell you they recruit. Straight to your face. Man. Come on. Only people believing the LCA innocent is LCA parents. Any other person know what’s up. But it’s cool. I know you got to do what you got to do for what’s best for your kid. You are a good dude and great dad. Go catch some fish and balckstone them with your kid. lol. Every coach in this area will tell you LCA recruits. Ones you are close with. And believe it or not. They have some evidence.

 

[VolNation85]

So according to you. If someone commits a crime whether it be theft or homicide and they Have no evidence themselves, it means it didn’t happen? Funny thing is. You never talk to their players they will tell you they recruit. Straight to your face. Man. Come on. Only people believing the LCA innocent is LCA parents. Any other person know what’s up. But it’s cool. I know you got to do what you got to do for what’s best for your kid. You are a good dude and great dad. Go catch some fish and balckstone them with your kid. lol. Every coach in this area will tell you LCA recruits. Ones you are close with. And believe it or not. They have some evidence.

What? 🤣 Theft and homicide? I said no such thing. You were reaching before but now you look like Stretch Armstrong my boy. 😂 I actually do talk to a lot of the parents and players because I knew a lot of them before any of our kids went to LCA. Also, there are plenty of other coaches in the area that doesn’t believe they recruit but that’s neither here nor there. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this topic.

I appreciate the compliment about being a good dad but just for the record, I only catch and release when I fish. They don’t get the Blackstone treatment. 😂

 

[rainman17]

They’re currently undefeated now

Again would you like to wager on if they will win the championship?

I’m willing to bet my savings and my FanDuel winnings for the year LCA doesn’t win class 3A hoops.

 

[BoKnowsSports]

Again would you like to wager on if they will win the championship?

I’m willing to bet my savings and my FanDuel winnings for the year LCA doesn’t win class 3A hoops.

LCA won’t beat Spotswood or Rustburg to get out of their region for basketball IMO…

 

[VolNation85]

@champ2408 I am curious to hear your opinion on something though…if so many people have evidence that LCA illegally recruits, why do they never make it public? Not once has anything been made public about any of their sports teams. Genuinely interested in knowing your opinion on this.

 

[Kenneth Harris]

@champ2408 I am curious to hear your opinion on something though…if so many people have evidence that LCA illegally recruits, why do they never make it public? Not once has anything been made public about any of their sports teams. Genuinely interested in knowing your opinion on this.

I have a prediction. If anyone that currently does not like LCA suddenly sees their favorite team start winning multiple football titles they will also stop complaining about LCA. The staff and players at the 6 schools with the state championships and you can argue that even the runner-ups are doing what is needed to make their teams successful.

There is not much difference with the 2021, 2022, 2023 and 2024 LCA teams. The major difference is the outside response to those teams which are dependent upon season outcomes. Oscar Smith went through some tough graduation and high value game losses only to drag themselves back to the top of the Class 6 pile. Other teams can do it also.

 

[mike salem]

LCA won’t beat Spotswood or Rustburg to get out of their region for basketball IMO…

& Northside looking at a 3 peat.

 

[BoKnowsSports]

& Northside looking at a 3 peat.

It’ll be hard to beat those guys this year. Best backcourt in the state of Virgina!

 

[rainman17]

I have Time so here’s the deep dive on LCA sports (4 big ones) the previous years dating back to pre Covid (2017). I didn’t include Olympic sports such as swimming or track and field because they’re more individualized and harder to track state champions (using max preps for data).

Football:

24/25 : 14-0 🏆
23/24 : 14-0 🏆
22/23 : 11-2
21/22 : 13-1 runner up
20/21 : 6-2
19/20 : 7-4
18/19 : 4-7
17/18 : 4-6


Basketball (boys):

24-25 : 5-0 (as of today)
23-24 : 8-15
22-23 : 12-11
21-22 : 18-6
20-21 : 12-2
19-20 : 20-8
18-19 : 19-6
17-18 : 9-14


Basketball (girls):

24/25 : 5-0 (as of today)
23/24 : 27-0 🏆
22/23 : 21-6
21/22 : 16-5
20/21 : 3-2
19/20 : 11-12
18/19 : 9-12
17/18 : 9-13

Soccer (boys/girls):

24 : (4-8-3) / (14-3)
23 : (9-9-1) / (10-5-1)
22 : (13-5) / (13-7)
21 : (6-5) / (8-3)
20 : COVID
19 : (13-5-2) / (12-5)
18 : (14-4-1) / (12-3-2)
17 : (13-2-3)

Baseball :

24: 24-1 runner up
23: 23-1 final 4
22: 23-2 🏆
21: 13-3
20: COVID
19: 22-2 final 4
18: 17-1
17: 24-2 🏆

So when you look at the numbers outside of baseball they haven’t been that dominant in any sport with the exception of the last 4 years in football and girls basketball.

 

[rainman17]

LCA won’t beat Spotswood or Rustburg to get out of their region for basketball IMO…

I definitely know this already which is why I keep harping about them merely being better than the local teams in the 434 area but in all honesty they’re not dominant but in a couple sports and it’s cyclical. Outside of baseball they aren’t a perennial power, football is becoming that now but they had a top 150 player which is enough in lower classifications who just graduated time to see if they got that it factor still.

 

[10iceiceice]

& Northside looking at a 3 peat.

Hopewell in the east C3 looking like they might have a say so in the championship this year. Could be a repeat of 2 years ago championship.

 

[catchtds]

I have Time so here’s the deep dive on LCA sports (4 big ones) the previous years dating back to pre Covid (2017). I didn’t include Olympic sports such as swimming or track and field because they’re more individualized and harder to track state champions (using max preps for data).

Football:

24/25 : 14-0 🏆
23/24 : 14-0 🏆
22/23 : 11-2
21/22 : 13-1 runner up
20/21 : 6-2
19/20 : 7-4
18/19 : 4-7
17/18 : 4-6


Basketball (boys):

24-25 : 5-0 (as of today)
23-24 : 8-15
22-23 : 12-11
21-22 : 18-6
20-21 : 12-2
19-20 : 20-8
18-19 : 19-6
17-18 : 9-14


Basketball (girls):

24/25 : 5-0 (as of today)
23/24 : 27-0 🏆
22/23 : 21-6
21/22 : 16-5
20/21 : 3-2
19/20 : 11-12
18/19 : 9-12
17/18 : 9-13

Soccer (boys/girls):

24 : (4-8-3) / (14-3)
23 : (9-9-1) / (10-5-1)
22 : (13-5) / (13-7)
21 : (6-5) / (8-3)
20 : COVID
19 : (13-5-2) / (12-5)
18 : (14-4-1) / (12-3-2)
17 : (13-2-3)

Baseball :

24: 24-1 runner up
23: 23-1 final 4
22: 23-2 🏆
21: 13-3
20: COVID
19: 22-2 final 4
18: 17-1
17: 24-2 🏆

So when you look at the numbers outside of baseball they haven’t been that dominant in any sport with the exception of the last 4 years in football and girls basketball.

They had one major factor in their last 4 years of football too, Frank is a good coach but it definitely helps to have a DUDE!

 

[DitkaXX]

LCA won’t beat Spotswood or Rustburg to get out of their region for basketball IMO…

I get Spotswood, but where did you get Rustburg from? They lost like 90% of their scoring from last year (maybe more) and they did not reload. They beat Brookville by 3. They will pick up some wins in the Seminole because it is as bad as it has been outside of the Lynchburg schools but Rustburg is no threat this year. JF lost 10 seniors and is way down this year, Amherst, Liberty, and Brookville are still trying to turn their programs around. If anyone else is a threat from the region it would be Western Albemarle.

 

[BoKnowsSports]

I get Spotswood, but where did you get Rustburg from? They lost like 90% of their scoring from last year (maybe more) and they did not reload. They beat Brookville by 3. They will pick up some wins in the Seminole because it is as bad as it has been outside of the Lynchburg schools but Rustburg is no threat this year. JF lost 10 seniors and is way down this year, Amherst, Liberty, and Brookville are still trying to turn their programs around. If anyone else is a threat from the region it would be Western Albemarle.

Saw Rustburg is 5-0. They normally have a really good program. Thanks for the clarification though. Haven’t really followed the Seminole or Dogwood in a while on a consistent basis.

 

[VolNation85]

They had one major factor in their last 4 years of football too, Frank is a good coach but it definitely helps to have a DUDE!

Yep! People seem to ignore that part. Gideon really is a generational talent. He’s ranked top 3 at his position nationally for a reason.

 

[BoKnowsSports]

The Bible Boyz have always been well coached and have a top notch community and program. I remember back in the day, Gretna was the only public school team that would play them in football and GW Danville would play them in basketball. Won’t no crying about transfers or “they gonna take our players”.. They lined it up and played ball. Damn how times have changed!

 

[Bo Bob]

The Bible Boyz have always been well coached and have a top notch community and program. I remember back in the day, Gretna was the only public school team that would play them in football and GW Danville would play them in basketball. Won’t no crying about transfers or “they gonna take our players”.. They lined it up and played ball. Damn how times have changed!

Ah, I remember Kevin Saunders raised a LOUD voice in opposition to recruited players after one loss to them.

 

[BoKnowsSports]

Ah, I remember Kevin Saunders raised a LOUD voice in opposition to recruited players after one loss to them.

I remember that too. I still think Gretna played them multiple years.

 

[Bo Bob]

I remember that too. I still think Gretna played them multiple years.

They did . I think it was the last time he really let his feelings be known.

 

[Kenneth Harris]

Ah, I remember Kevin Saunders raised a LOUD voice in opposition to recruited players after one loss to them.

A while ago I brought up this point concerning the Dematha Stags having recruited a D1 player from Phoebus. That player would have been a senior starter and most likely the fastest football player in the state of Virginia during the Magna Vista semifinal game. A 28-23 final.

But when I brought up this point many VaPreps posters were boo hooing in disagreement saying that it does not matter. I am not asking for the hive mind treat but why does transferring and recruiting matter 9 years later that LCA has taken over Virginia C3? 39-2 since their loss to Phoebus. Things that make you go hmmmm.

I will say it again. A high school football team cannot lose even 1 D1 player for any reason and be the same team afterwards. Varina turned into a really soft and melty, jelly-like dark blue pudding with gold highlights after losing their QB for God's sake. The hypocrisy that exists in America should come with a few wacks from a bamboo cane for each instance of being a hypocrite.

 

[rainman17]

Yep! People seem to ignore that part. Gideon really is a generational talent. He’s ranked top 3 at his position nationally for a reason.

Emphasis on why the last 4 years they’ve been at the top of the top but “he’s not from here” “hes a transfer” “they recruit” are easier to stomach than the fact Lynchburg had a top 100 player again.

 

[HokieHating]

I get Spotswood, but where did you get Rustburg from? They lost like 90% of their scoring from last year (maybe more) and they did not reload. They beat Brookville by 3. They will pick up some wins in the Seminole because it is as bad as it has been outside of the Lynchburg schools but Rustburg is no threat this year. JF lost 10 seniors and is way down this year, Amherst, Liberty, and Brookville are still trying to turn their programs around. If anyone else is a threat from the region it would be Western Albemarle.

Yeah Rustburg did lose a lot of scoring. But don’t count them out. They play a 9 to 10 man rotation and have 2 key players out at the moment. I’m not saying they we will win Seminole but it’s not as much of a drop off as you think.

Another part of the LCA recruiting or not recruiting that a lot of people are over looking is they have private money coming in to help have better facilities and top tier coaching that the public schools can not do. No public school coach is making enough just on coaches salary. So what they can offer is just as much of a recruiting pitch as anything.

 

[VolNation85]

Emphasis on why the last 4 years they’ve been at the top of the top but “he’s not from here” “hes a transfer” “they recruit” are easier to stomach than the fact Lynchburg had a top 100 player again.

😂 exactly! Meanwhile, the dude has been at LCA since 1st grade.

 

[VolNation85]

Yeah Rustburg did lose a lot of scoring. But don’t count them out. They play a 9 to 10 man rotation and have 2 key players out at the moment. I’m not saying they we will win Seminole but it’s not as much of a drop off as you think.

Another part of the LCA recruiting or not recruiting that a lot of people are over looking is they have private money coming in to help have better facilities and top tier coaching that the public schools can not do. No public school coach is making enough just on coaches salary. So what they can offer is just as much of a recruiting pitch as anything.

I can’t speak on the coaches salaries because I don’t know what LCA coaches make. Also, I don’t know if you have seen their facilities or not but they are average at best. Most public schools in the area have better facilities.

 

[catchtds]

Yeah Rustburg did lose a lot of scoring. But don’t count them out. They play a 9 to 10 man rotation and have 2 key players out at the moment. I’m not saying they we will win Seminole but it’s not as much of a drop off as you think.

Another part of the LCA recruiting or not recruiting that a lot of people are over looking is they have private money coming in to help have better facilities and top tier coaching that the public schools can not do. No public school coach is making enough just on coaches salary. So what they can offer is just as much of a recruiting pitch as anything.

Their coaches don’t make more than public school coaches. Not saying all privates are like that but LCA isn’t getting top tier coaches because of money.

 

[Phoebus Fan]

Private schools don't have zones...SMH.

Also- Phoebus recruits.

So name the players Phoebus recruited since you know so much….

 

[MaroonDude]

All the ones that didn’t go to their feeder middle school.

 

[wikki]

I can’t speak on the coaches salaries because I don’t know what LCA coaches make. Also, I don’t know if you have seen their facilities or not but they are average at best. Several public schools in the area have better facilities.

I agree on their facility

 

[VolNation85]

when they first came in I vaguely remember VHSL trying to do that.
move them up in class would solve most of the problem

They have a defined school zone and they are already playing up in class. They only have 450 students but play Class 3. They should be Class 2.

 

[BoKnowsSports]

Now that the RB is gone, LCA will be just okay again. Great coaching will keep them relevant.

 

[mike salem]

I would expect they'll be a Top 2 or 3 team in the Seminole pretty much every year. They'll probably be a perennial C3 Reg C finalist. They will have a good shot to represent the "West" in C3 most every year, unless the VHSL makes changes to the playoff system by cross bracketing.