Got me brother but those numbers are way off.....those are the numbers from the years I was there. Long before then.
Greatest Team in VA History.....
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Me and Lindsey had a great one on one match up in 96. We talked about it a few times at Lowe's when I worked there and picked up from his store in Lynchburg. Appomattox beat us 38-16 but I held Lyndsey to 2-8 catches he did get one TD but the other catch I stripped him for a fumble. We battled and when I saw him nearly 20 years later we went straight to trash talk. Real good dude I'll never forget that night.
And 98 PV was better than 94, two D1 kids, one who set records at ND and was a second round pick, and Warren played at Wake.
I have no dog in the fight but I would say Vic hall is a better HS player than Jones in my opinion
As a UVA fan and yes I played at Powell Valley I say the Jones are better than Hall. All three are in the VHSL record book,but their talents took them to the NFL and Thomas is in the top 25 rushers in the NFLnhistory. I too, think the 98 team was better. That team was led by Julius. Having said that if it was either the 94 or 98 team as in one's opinion they where the third best in top 100 their talent shows they have talent to take them to next level no matter what level.
The topic was best high school football player...not college or NFL player...and as far as I'm concerned in high school Hall was better than any of those guys
I was fortunate enough to see both Hall and Jones play. In the '98 state title game v. Madison County, Julius was impressive because of his speed. He was a great athlete. But in that game, MC's Kirkley was close to that level (went on to play at Pittsburgh). However, in Hall's senior year title game, he was just head and shoulders above every body else on the field. Unbelievably talented football player. IMHO, Hall was the better football player.
Honestly, I doubt it would have mattered what level Hall was playing at...he was that good. Imagine him playing behind a line from one of those Hampton Crabber teams?!? Not that Gretna did not have talented lines but...And it only took AL Groh 3+ years to figure that out!
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The only reason Vic Hall isn't in the NFL is because of his height. I honestly believe if he was 5'11 then he would've had a solid career in the NFL at RB or corner. Dude was head and shoulders above everyone in high school and IMHO he was used wrong at UVA until they moved him to QB. Horrace Hubbard was another from Gretna that could've been an All Pro D-End in the NFL imo. Went to OK State and Ohio... BEAST! Unfortunately he just didn't have it academically to sustain playing college football.
Groh took the best QB in Virginia HS history and moved him to DB. .He also was planning to move RB Amad Bradshaw to defense before he got in trouble and left school. When Hagans left, Hall should have been starting QB for next 4 years. He was best QB on roster. I went to some UVA practices before Hall was moved to defense.
That was when GC was 3A, a contender in 3A, and PV beat them on a regular basis. In 1997, the 3A champ lost to bothnthe Div 1 and Div 2 champ, PV and Appalachia.
When Hall left Gretna he was #5 in total offense for all time in the entire country.
Almost 14,000 yards, very impressive. He was just head and shoulders better than everyone he played.
TJ ended up with over 7,000 yards in three seasons. He didn't start as a freshman and still holds single season rushing record with over 3300 yards. TJ had 6,400 yards in two seasons. If he had been primary RB as a frosh, he would've ended up with nearly ,10,000 yards as a RB. Hall was dynamic and one ofnthe best in VHSL history but I'm not sure I put him above TJ, Edd Clark or Ronald Curry.
To believe that TJ would have had nearly 3,000 yards as a Freshman is a huge reach. TJ is an outstanding player, but I believe Hall was just on another level on the high school field.
TJ had 6400 yards as a junior and senior. Did not start until then. Had 400 as a soph (10ypc) and 300 as a freshman (10ypc). If he has 100 carries both years he would have amassed nearly 10,000 rush yards. Hall started all four years and was the entire offense. TJ was only focal point lastntwo seasons. He had over 6400 yards his last two seasons, you don't think he could've amassed 3600 yards if he had gotten carries his first two years when he averaged 10ypc in limited duty?
His first two years he played behind a first team all state back I think. I don't believe it was Hall. It might have been Bishop. Hall I think was on the 89 and 90 state champs.
I saw both multiple times and hall was better than Jones in high school no question about it
Yeah Vic Hall was head and shoulders above the competition. I'm surprised David Wilson hadn't come up from GW Danville. He was probably the most exciting player I've seen outside of Vic Hall and Peter Rose from Amherst. During Wilson's senior year he was a one man wrecking crew playing against Triple A teams. HE'd go on to play at VT and was a first rounder back in 2012 to the NY Giants. Great player, even better kid.
Because he had an all state RB ahead of him. Still had over 300 yards bothb seasons at 10ypc
Then you're justnbeing bias. No question about it? LOL yeah right.
Teams kept 9-10 guys in the box and he still set rushing record as ajunior w 3300 yards then racked up another 3100 as a senior. If he started all four years like Hall, he would've had 10,000 rush yards.
I can see the debate but acting as if it's no contest is ludicrous. I saw both play as well, and taking nothing from Hall but TJ did things I'd never seen any players do with a stacked box against him every time. Also an all-state S, so notnjust an offensive dynamo.
And you aren't biased? Lol
I'm not a Gretna or Powell valley fan but Vick hall was a better HIGH SCHOOL football player than Thomas Jones no doubt in my mind
I really don't care what you "think" to be honest
Does any of this really matter so much to people? It's someone's opinion, nothing more nothing less. If every single person on this sight said the same person and they were just coming out of school, do you think any school would care what a poster on a message board thinks? This is high school football, and there are the same arguments going on daily about the best players to ever play a game in each product sport. And still, those are just someone's opinion. Everyone should be allowed to have their own opinion without being ridiculed about it.
Also, I would love to know what makes people think that they know more than someone they don't know based off of an opinion. Yes there are people who can show how much or how little they know based off of how they post things, but based off an opinion on a single issue? Saying things like I don't care what you think, we'll couldn't the exact thing be said back? It's a difference in opinion, and there is never going to be a "right" answer.
Also, I would love to know what makes people think that they know more than someone they don't know based off of an opinion. Yes there are people who can show how much or how little they know based off of how they post things, but based off an opinion on a single issue? Saying things like I don't care what you think, we'll couldn't the exact thing be said back? It's a difference in opinion, and there is never going to be a "right" answer.
If Hall had played more than the 1st half in the majority of his games his numbers would be unbelievable. Hands down the best this great state has ever seen.....
Not disagreeing with you, as it's your opinion and I never saw him play so I don't have an opinion on him, but with a lot of great teams, can't the same be said in terms of stats and not playing all game? To say hands down is a pretty bold statement with all the players that have come out of the state and I'm sure that nobody on these boards has seen them all. I don't see why people are getting upset over this, it's just someone's opinion
You don't understand why people get upset when they don't agree on something? Have you not been watching TV for the last year with politics? People who don't agree and are passionate about something, tend to get pretty upset.
