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G MASTER BLASTER W

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Word on the grapevine is this game is currently being heavily talked about. What's everyone's thoughts on this one? Me personally I think GW will be in for a long night the Falcons are a very physical bunch up front with a man in the backfield in Dyer and Ashton Baker the QB is an athlete. Only way I think we could win is exploit the weakness I've seen in the secondary.
 
Word on the grapevine is this game is currently being heavily talked about. What's everyone's thoughts on this one? Me personally I think GW will be in for a long night the Falcons are a very physical bunch up front with a man in the backfield in Dyer and Ashton Baker the QB is an athlete. Only way I think we could win is exploit the weakness I've seen in the secondary.
Is this game going to be played this week? Also, are you going to have last week's results from the pick em and this week's games up today? Thanks in advance!!
 
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Is this game going to be played this week? Also, are you going to have last week's results from the pick em and this week's games up today? Thanks in advance!!
Yes this Friday from what I'm hearing I'll know for sure later today if it's happening. And GW will travel to CW. Yes the results and this week's Pick'em will be up tonight after I get off work.
 
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Central announced that they will not play this week. And they are adding a game against Charlottesville on October 22nd.
Thanks for the info. I'll see what going on with GW and if they find another opponent for this week. Or what's happening haha
 
I've been waiting for years for a Lake Taylor - GW matchup

I'd like to see it but this year it would be running clock in the 1st Q. Not saying GW is LT level or would win in any year but I'm years past we could keep it competitive for a while and maybe it'll off the upset.
 
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I'd like to see it but this year it would be running clock in the 1st Q. Not saying GW is LT level or would win in any year but I'm years past we could keep it competitive for a while and maybe it'll off the upset.
GW from what I hear have been ducking opponents for the last month. Sad downfall for program that you to be tough as nails.
 
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GW from what I hear have been ducking opponents for the last month. Sad downfall for program that you to be tough as nails.
Not saying GW is doing that but I've noticed other schools definitely seem to be using the 'Roni as an excuse to either A) cancel games vs. teams they'll lose to without any repercussions or B) end their season early and avoid forfeit losses.

Once again, not saying GW is doing that because they've never backed down in the past but I can think of quite a few schools across the state that make me go "hmmm" this season.
 
GW from what I hear have been ducking opponents for the last month. Sad downfall for program that you to be tough as nails.
Yeah we have been because it is absolutely no secret we would have been blown out badly by most of them. Graham would've hung 60+ on us with zero trouble then the talks of Princeton came and that would've been just as bad. Just watch what happens against Galax it'll be running clock watch. The coaching staff knows they're finally getting exposed and people are finally taking notice and if we play the teams offering the exposure would be much worse. Sure GW is a few bad breaks away from 3-1 at this point but this is not a 3-1 team it's alot closer to 0-4 FC could've won if not for a penalty on the 5 yard line. Carroll county was on the way to a win until the QB got hurt. Raddy killed us period and Giles was down 5 starters and still won. So yeah ducking opponents is exactly what's happening in Wytheville. That seat is beyond hot it's on fire 🔥🔥 🔥
 
GW from what I hear have been ducking opponents for the last month. Sad downfall for program that you to be tough as nails.
Couldn't agree more man and it will be again soon as soon as the kids are willing to play again. Currently they have no interest in taking part in what's going on with the GW football program. And the ones that are playing are playing simply because they love the sport. GW numbers have steadily fallen each year since 2014 and will continue to fall until we have a change in coaching. We've went from a feared opponent to every single team we played to a gimme win to some of them. We've had 1 win against Galax in that time by 1 point the rest of the games have been blowout losses except for this spring season where we lost by 1. If a GW game comes down to coaching we're gonna get beat it's that simple and that is proven just look at the numbers in black and white. It's time for a change and I think it's finally going to happen soon. You can't waste these kids season all because you're afraid of being exposed we've had multiple teams offer us a game and they've all been told no. GWs starting QB is back so we're as strong as we're going to be so that's not why we're turning them down. Alot were close enough to make it worth it others have offered to come to us so it's not that. And in a season where you're not promised a next game you need to play anymore and everyone who offers and we're not out of fear. Hell Lake Taylor is willing to travel to anyone in the state to have a game this week you think that call has been made? Nope sure we'd take an ass beating but it's a game that you currently are going to miss. So...
 
Not saying GW is doing that but I've noticed other schools definitely seem to be using the 'Roni as an excuse to either A) cancel games vs. teams they'll lose to without any repercussions or B) end their season early and avoid forfeit losses.

Once again, not saying GW is doing that because they've never backed down in the past but I can think of quite a few schools across the state that make me go "hmmm" this season.
You're absolutely correct we've never backed down in the past hell we'd seek out the big dogs. Now if you're a regular .500+ team we want nothing to do with you. That's proven by us avoiding teams offering to come to us teams that would make us better even in taking an L. And I'll just say it GW is flat out ducking teams we know are good. If Lancaster, Rye cove, Hurley, Craig Co ect ect ect called we'd gladly take the game cause it would make some look like good coaches.
 
You're absolutely correct we've never backed down in the past hell we'd seek out the big dogs. Now if you're a regular .500+ team we want nothing to do with you. That's proven by us avoiding teams offering to come to us teams that would make us better even in taking an L. And I'll just say it GW is flat out ducking teams we know are good. If Lancaster, Rye cove, Hurley, Craig Co ect ect ect called we'd gladly take the game cause it would make some look like good coaches.
I'll mention one of the teams that makes me curious about skirting the Covid rules, Covington.. wonder if GW and Covington discussed playing this week? Perhaps Covington is locked down, not sure, but they were magically missing games last spring, Narrows game for example, but then showing up the next week for Alleghany. Seems like the same thing is happening this fall; once again, maybe I'm wrong and they're getting quarantined every other week. That would be a good match up IMO.
 
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I'll mention one of the teams that makes me curious about skirting the Covid rules, Covington.. wonder if GW and Covington discussed playing this week? Perhaps Covington is locked down, not sure, but they were magically missing games last spring, Narrows game for example, but then showing up the next week for Alleghany. Seems like the same thing is happening this fall; once again, maybe I'm wrong and they're getting quarantined every other week. That would be a good match up IMO.
Id be fine with that game this Friday and it's has much more of a chance of happening than most others. But I doubt it happens
 
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Couldn't agree more man and it will be again soon as soon as the kids are willing to play again. Currently they have no interest in taking part in what's going on with the GW football program. And the ones that are playing are playing simply because they love the sport. GW numbers have steadily fallen each year since 2014 and will continue to fall until we have a change in coaching. We've went from a feared opponent to every single team we played to a gimme win to some of them. We've had 1 win against Galax in that time by 1 point the rest of the games have been blowout losses except for this spring season where we lost by 1. If a GW game comes down to coaching we're gonna get beat it's that simple and that is proven just look at the numbers in black and white. It's time for a change and I think it's finally going to happen soon. You can't waste these kids season all because you're afraid of being exposed we've had multiple teams offer us a game and they've all been told no. GWs starting QB is back so we're as strong as we're going to be so that's not why we're turning them down. Alot were close enough to make it worth it others have offered to come to us so it's not that. And in a season where you're not promised a next game you need to play anymore and everyone who offers and we're not out of fear. Hell Lake Taylor is willing to travel to anyone in the state to have a game this week you think that call has been made? Nope sure we'd take an ass beating but it's a game that you currently are going to miss. So...
GW should call!! When is the last time they played? Galax is going to wax the floor with them!!
 
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Couldn't agree more man and it will be again soon as soon as the kids are willing to play again. Currently they have no interest in taking part in what's going on with the GW football program. And the ones that are playing are playing simply because they love the sport. GW numbers have steadily fallen each year since 2014 and will continue to fall until we have a change in coaching. We've went from a feared opponent to every single team we played to a gimme win to some of them. We've had 1 win against Galax in that time by 1 point the rest of the games have been blowout losses except for this spring season where we lost by 1. If a GW game comes down to coaching we're gonna get beat it's that simple and that is proven just look at the numbers in black and white. It's time for a change and I think it's finally going to happen soon. You can't waste these kids season all because you're afraid of being exposed we've had multiple teams offer us a game and they've all been told no. GWs starting QB is back so we're as strong as we're going to be so that's not why we're turning them down. Alot were close enough to make it worth it others have offered to come to us so it's not that. And in a season where you're not promised a next game you need to play anymore and everyone who offers and we're not out of fear. Hell Lake Taylor is willing to travel to anyone in the state to have a game this week you think that call has been made? Nope sure we'd take an ass beating but it's a game that you currently are going to miss. So...
They should have played graham when they had a chance!! Any game is better than no game!!! poor kids having their high school career wasted!!!
 
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They should have played graham when they had a chance!! Any game is better than no game!!! poor kids having their high school career wasted!!!
Absolutely yes we should've and yes these kids deserve to play at any chance. Bad part is the quarantine happened over the homecoming dance that was held OUTSIDE! So...
 
GW should call!! When is the last time they played? Galax is going to wax the floor with them!!
Played who? And yeah I expect a running clock before the half if it's not I'll be shocked and will eat my damn shoe. It's literally gotten to the point where Galax's fans, coaches and player call out our plays before they happen haha.
 
Not saying GW is doing that but I've noticed other schools definitely seem to be using the 'Roni as an excuse to either A) cancel games vs. teams they'll lose to without any repercussions or B) end their season early and avoid forfeit losses.

Once again, not saying GW is doing that because they've never backed down in the past but I can think of quite a few schools across the state that make me go "hmmm" this season.
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As someone mentioned on another board Tunstall seems to have an outbreak at the most opportune time for them.

Covington.

Did Mountain View use it as an excuse to get out of forfeits? Rye Cove possibly as well.

There are plenty other examples I'm sure.

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So these "no contests".. how many games are required by the VHSL for schools to be eligible for the playoffs? In some cases I'm sure schools are dealing with multiple opponents coming down with outbreaks and left scrambling for games...sometimes multiple times per week. It's made for some interesting scenarios and games but it's getting a little silly at this point.
 
As someone mentioned on another board Tunstall seems to have an outbreak at the most opportune time for them.

Covington.

Did Mountain View use it as an excuse to get out of forfeits? Rye Cove possibly as well.

There are plenty other examples I'm sure.

...

So these "no contests".. how many games are required by the VHSL for schools to be eligible for the playoffs? In some cases I'm sure schools are dealing with multiple opponents coming down with outbreaks and left scrambling for games...sometimes multiple times per week. It's made for some interesting scenarios and games but it's getting a little silly at this point.
I heard a rumor that to be playoff eligible a team had to have 9 games played at a minimum. If true some teams are sitting in a questionable spot in that regard. Could make these last few weeks like a silly season of deal making to get games scheduled and in.
 
I heard a rumor that to be playoff eligible a team had to have 9 games played at a minimum. If true some teams are sitting in a questionable spot in that regard. Could make these last few weeks like a silly season of deal making to get games scheduled and in.

Yep, I've heard anywhere from 8 to 9 games. Some of these "no contests" need to be turned into straight up forfeits.
 
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FIrst off, every region sets a different # of games needed for postseason play. So you could have 24 different #s to keep track of. 2nd, Mountain View's forfeits are because they shut down the program due to lack of players, it is not technically Covid-protocol related.
 
FIrst off, every region sets a different # of games needed for postseason play. So you could have 24 different #s to keep track of. 2nd, Mountain View's forfeits are because they shut down the program due to lack of players, it is not technically Covid-protocol related.
Are Mountain View's games being counted as forfeits? I had heard they were not.
 
FIrst off, every region sets a different # of games needed for postseason play. So you could have 24 different #s to keep track of. 2nd, Mountain View's forfeits are because they shut down the program due to lack of players, it is not technically Covid-protocol related.
Understood about each region setting their requirements. So in theory if a region said under the circumstances that a team need only complete 6 games that would fly? Seems like VHSL maybe able to persuade a bare minimum number even understandOmg that they have no real power except during state play. The issue in my mind would be if a team only completes 6-8 games and were to tie a team that completes a 10 game schedule, the teams that had limited games would get the higher seed. Not saying it is happening but it sure seems like a few teams are ducking and dodging certain teams. Again just an opinion.
 
Are Mountain View's games being counted as forfeits? I had heard they were not.
Maybe I misunderstood you. I thought you meant Mountain View was using Covid as excuse to get out of forfeits.
I do not know what the Mountain View games count as for their opponents. But some have been rescheduling games with someone else, so they definitely can't claim forfeit then or they would be over game limit. Some teams in tight points situations might want to play a game against a team with some wins, rather than take a forfeit from a winless Class 2 team that provides few points.
 
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Maybe I misunderstood you. I thought you meant Mountain View was using Covid as excuse to get out of forfeits.
I do not know what the Mountain View games count as for their opponents. But some have been rescheduling games with someone else, so they definitely can't claim forfeit then or they would be over game limit. Some teams in tight points situations might want to play a game against a team with some wins, rather than take a forfeit from a winless Class 2 team that provides few points.
No, I knew they were cancelling their season for reasons besides the roni, as is Rye Cove.

Check that, Rye Cove is claiming Covid is one of the reasons they're dropping out and I assume dodging forfeits that way.

But this is where I get confused. Are teams being allowed to end their seasons early without repercussions this season, regardless of the underlying reasons? It's one thing for a school to end their season early or miss a bunch of games due to legitimate quarantines/lockdowns. But it's another for schools to take advantage of the situation and call it a week, or season and get away with not taking the L's. Once again, not saying anyone is doing that but it sure does seem a little fishy in certain situations...

And yes I agree if schools are able to reschedule with different opponents that is great. I know PM was able to rechedule with Rural Retreat after MV called it a season, but they were lucky because that game would have been a week before an off week so the Blues had two weeks open to schedule a replacement. Not every school is going to be so lucky, and more power to the ones who are having to keep doing this over and over. And as we move along it's only going to get more difficult to find replacements/teams/refs for replacement games.. if it comes down to a team needing to have played 9 games and they only have been able to play 8 for example? Then they need to be given a forfeit victory somewhere along the line IF it was that opposing school that was locked down/ended their season, etc.
 
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Understood about each region setting their requirements. So in theory if a region said under the circumstances that a team need only complete 6 games that would fly? Seems like VHSL maybe able to persuade a bare minimum number even understandOmg that they have no real power except during state play. The issue in my mind would be if a team only completes 6-8 games and were to tie a team that completes a 10 game schedule, the teams that had limited games would get the higher seed. Not saying it is happening but it sure seems like a few teams are ducking and dodging certain teams. Again just an opinion.
Teams were doing that in basketball season last year. Some teams only played a handful of games, and I believe in one region, a team didn't even start participating until the playoffs, yet those teams got rewarded with higher seeds.

As for this season in football, it seems like very few teams will have a full 10 game schedule. Out here in Region A, some teams are on pace to have 8-9 games, where as some might only have 5-6. Also, what about district games, where districts still crown champions and hand out all district awards? Say for example, Essex and Northumberland in the NND. They're more than likely the 2 best teams in the district, but it's looking like they might not even play. Definitely been a crazy year, and just wait until the playoffs start and some teams will have to end up forfeiting because of Covid. It's bound to happen
 
Yea they better get that "minimum" number of games clarified..

Because here is scenario that would absolutely set some people off, myself included. Lets say Region B states that "minimum 8 games" be played to be playoff eligible. So what is keeping Buffalo Gap from claiming "Covid difficulties" tomorrow and ducking their game with Riverheads? And then Wilson does the same next week? And then Fort Defiance does it the week after? And Riverheads cant find replacements? Not to say that any of those schools would pull such a thing, I dont believe for a second any of them would..certain schools in other parts of the state?? Mmmaybe..?

And once again while I dont foresee that happening there are already schools in other parts of the state down 2 games already so it's got to be a little concerning.
 
Yea they better get that "minimum" number of games clarified..

Because here is scenario that would absolutely set some people off, myself included. Lets say Region B states that "minimum 8 games" be played to be playoff eligible. So what is keeping Buffalo Gap from claiming "Covid difficulties" tomorrow and ducking their game with Riverheads? And then Wilson does the same next week? And then Fort Defiance does it the week after? And Riverheads cant find replacements? Not to say that any of those schools would pull such a thing, I dont believe for a second any of them would..certain schools in other parts of the state?? Mmmaybe..?

And once again while I dont foresee that happening there are already schools in other parts of the state down 2 games already so it's got to be a little concerning.
WP is down 2 games and we will now be playing 8 games in the next 28 days trying to make it up.
 
Rye Cove has ended their season. It was not COVID, they did not have enough turnout to continue, lack of healthy 0players after a few got hurt in first half of Lee High game.

I would assume that would make all their remaining games forfeits if the oppoǹents don't schedule new games
 
Rye Cove has ended their season. It was not COVID, they did not have enough turnout to continue, lack of healthy 0players after a few got hurt in first half of Lee High game.

I would assume that would make all their remaining games forfeits if the oppoǹents don't schedule new games
I'm not sure. They claimed the roni was one of the reasons in their twitter announcement.
 
Hopefully they can get those 8 games in. I'd think there is a good chance at least one of those games, Mathews, will end up as a forfeit win.
Mathews is actually playing tonight against King and Queen, so we'll see. I don't think Mathews started the season but with 16 players to begin with. I don't care what anyone says, but when Mathews got rid of Coach Kelly last winter, they set their program back for many years. Although he didn't have the best record in his first couple of years, he had the kids and community excited about football and so many of those kids don't seem to have any desire to play without him there
 
Mathews is actually playing tonight against King and Queen, so we'll see. I don't think Mathews started the season but with 16 players to begin with. I don't care what anyone says, but when Mathews got rid of Coach Kelly last winter, they set their program back for many years. Although he didn't have the best record in his first couple of years, he had the kids and community excited about football and so many of those kids don't seem to have any desire to play without him there
Coach Kelly is a good guy.
 
Since Master Blaster knows all about football, he needs to be the head coach in order to move the GW program on to its accustomed winning ways. I am sure with all of his Sandlot experience as a coach; he would be highly qualified and much sought after.
 
I'm not sure. They claimed the roni was one of the reasons in their twitter announcement.
From the people I've talked to in the know in RC, it was because they only had 11 players who were not injured. They felt like (rightfully so in my mind) they could not safely continue to play with only 11 kids, mostly freshman and sophomores. You gotta try to keep these kids healthy, no one wants to see kids get hurt, and playing with only 11 kids is a recipe for disaster. They weren't gonna win any more games anyway, I think forfeiting the rest of the season is the right decision.
 
From the people I've talked to in the know in RC, it was because they only had 11 players who were not injured. They felt like (rightfully so in my mind) they could not safely continue to play with only 11 kids, mostly freshman and sophomores. You gotta try to keep these kids healthy, no one wants to see kids get hurt, and playing with only 11 kids is a recipe for disaster. They weren't gonna win any more games anyway, I think forfeiting the rest of the season is the right decision.
Yep I understand stopping the season due to low numbers. As long as they're taking L's it's all good with me. My concern is schools are going to use roni as an excuse to get out of L's.
 
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