No kid should play football in that case. Losing is part of the game of football and the game of life.
Running up score
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No kid should play football in that case. Losing is part of the game of football and the game of life.
As long as you have taken your starters out... and aren't running reverses and airing it out I think it is ok. It is alarming that a team would be that bad though. If they are in the same classification what are you going to do? If its a 6a vs a 2A they shouldn't even be playing the game
Are you serious? If we have our JV players vs. 1st stringers? Are you serious. I guess we let our 8th grade team dress out on Fridays to appease people like you. SMH
I wanna add something else to share our sportsmanship. We didnt even blow the canon or train horn after scoring in the second half because we didnt want to rub it in and add insult to injury.
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Whoever runs that account is an idiot. They started the account after they were dropping negative comments on Appo FB page. She was calling us Crappamattox and cheaters from the Richlands win last year. Her account had her wearing a Richlands cheerleading uniform in some of her previous pics. I think she was out of school and graduated now though. They got blocked and then came on twitter tweeting negative stuff, then said they were from Amherst. She is a joke and a liar. I help run the accounts on FB,IG, Twitter with other boosters and parents. I am the one that blocked her after a parent that is a fellow admin asked me what to do.
You are mistaken, our JV has not played a full 10 game schedule. Heritage didnt play us. Plus our JV has been up in many games and they have been missing qtrs.
So Im guilty because I am justifying our score? SMH, Im sorry, if you got your 1st string in and we have JV team in and Im still getting pick6 on you and running 40 yard td runs with a qb sneak? THAT IS ON YOU SIR!!!
Either YOUR making this garbage up or your "parent" is colored blind. That was Chatham that had a 80 yarder, he caught it on our....get this.....our JV TEAM! He caught it 30 yards down and ran the rest of it. So, next time you talk to this parent. I hope they are rooting for the correct team. Plus your score was wrong. They NEVER had 8 until they 80 yard TD, then they went for 2 points.
You are correct about Kelso running the ball, it was Deron #21 that rarely gets snaps at RB unless its a game like this, the starters was out at that point. He also let 2 seniors run the ball because it was Senior Night. I have never seen them at RB a day of my life unless it was a scrimmage game. One of them #38, our LB, he NEVER runs the ball and he ran just one time. I dont see nothing wrong with that on Senior Night. To let some seniors run the ball that never touched it before behind center?
I wish I knew the parent so I could correct them before they go telling a bunch of lies about coach smith coaching.
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When we beat Amherst last year, did we not pull our starters out after the score got bad?
News and Advance does the TOP 10 in rushing, receiving and passing every week. Last year we had Buster at the bottom of top 10 and Matt Page at like 7 of the Top 10 (at the end of season). This year we have one in there, Javon Scruggs at 8 in passing. This is because Coach Smith is a conservative coach and doesnt want to get players injured due to greedy stat padding. There is another reason, he spreads the ball around at RB.
You completely misunderstood my post, that is what I was saying. If any team pulls out their starters then that is not running up the score
Ridiculous. As was stated earlier, if a kid suffers emotional distress because his team lost 81-8 rather than 41-8, then that kid shouldn't be playing sports. I'm a firm believer that getting your butt handed to you in any competition should be motivation to improve yourself, and not to question the character of those that beat you. From my perspective, there's more humiliation in having the other team punt on first down than there would be by giving up another score.
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NO wikki, I did understand it. i wanted you to share with the posters that Coach did this last year when we played yall. He is a humble man and it pisses me off when i hear fans say we "need to stick it to em" or "why is he subbing out already." i reply with, because he is a smart coach.
I remember watching Buckingham leave in Ragland well in 4th qtr vs Martinsville in 1st round of playoffs last year. I liked Coach Gill, but he would play starters too long. That is my only gripe against him.
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Generally speaking, I condone scoring to get to, or re-achieve, a running clock. Maybe after the 8 minute mark in the 4th quarter, (+-), it would be a bit classless.
BTW, if Highland Springs puts in their JV on you, it's a form of cruel and unusual punishment. They would beat many varsity teams, even in 5a. Just a phenomenal JV squad.
42-6 ... 81-8......yea about the same. Did you even think about this before posting?
I recall Gretna punting on first down once at Chatham and got accused of running up score in a 55-0 win.
I always find it amusing when I read about 2nd, 3rd, and JV guys playing on the 1A/2A boards. I'm not saying anything about running up the score or what constitutes running it up beyond if your starters are in and you are running your regular offense, that is running it up-- but there is no way that you can get that far removed from your 1's. Reality is that most of your 2nd team guys in 1A/2A are either starters on the other side or see significant playing time in some facet of the game. If you go down to a true 3rd team, with no 1's or 2's, you'd be rolling at least 33 deep on Fridays, tack on another 11 JV guys that aren't backups or 3rd teamers and your are rolling 44 deep. Most teams do not dress all of their JV starters on Friday, so I doubt the JV TEAM was in. Probably a mix of JV guys who are either backups or 3rd team Varsity guys and older guys who aren't JV but aren't starters.
Sure you might have 4 qbs or 4 backs that can run. but If you are 4 deep at right guard, you truly have something special.
Either way, I may be wrong, and if I am then God bless them for having that many players who can dress on Friday night plus the ability and financial backing to dress their entire JV team on Friday's as well. A lot of other schools would certainly love to have that type of administrative support.
Sure you might have 4 qbs or 4 backs that can run. but If you are 4 deep at right guard, you truly have something special.
Either way, I may be wrong, and if I am then God bless them for having that many players who can dress on Friday night plus the ability and financial backing to dress their entire JV team on Friday's as well. A lot of other schools would certainly love to have that type of administrative support.
Appomattox does have 35+ on varsity in addition to dressing Jv players. They are one of the larger 2A schools in the state so they have that luxury. They also have a great administration that is very supportive of the football team.
81-8 is running up the score...you boys twisted any way you want. Total lack of respect for your opponent when continuing to score in 2nd half of a blowout. Appomattox has a great team and could win it all.....try doing it with a little class.
If I think a team is running up the score I'd be the first to say so as I have been critical of teams doing so in the past. But in this case I don't think it was. It was 57-0 at the half. Of the 24 points scored in the 2nd half 10 came from a field goal and a pick six. No player had more than 7 carries. Backups were in and you can't tell them to not play hard or take a knee or punt in the 3rd quarter. Chatham isn't a top team right now but they do have 3 wins on the year and from what I have seen and heard from friends I have all over the state is that Appomattox has a great coach who is well respected. This is from someone who has no dog in the fight and I'm giving a neutral opinion. If I thought they were doing so intentionally I'd be one of the first ones to say so
I got no dog in the fight either but why kick the FG?.....don't let the facts get in the way of your argument....81-8 fact.
I got no dog in the fight either but why kick the FG?.....don't let the facts get in the way of your argument....81-8 fact.
No team should ever be critized for kicking a FG. High school kickers do not kick many FGs. Anytime the opportunity arises, kick the FG for practice. Come playoff time, a FG may be difference between a state championship and going home.
I recall a few years back, Gretna kicked a 50 yard field goal as time expired in first half and got accused of running up score. It was first FG attempt of the year. Gretna did not score in 2nd half, if my memory is correct.
I recall a few years back, Gretna kicked a 50 yard field goal as time expired in first half and got accused of running up score. It was first FG attempt of the year. Gretna did not score in 2nd half, if my memory is correct.
No team should ever be critized for kicking a FG. High school kickers do not kick many FGs. Anytime the opportunity arises, kick the FG for practice. Come playoff time, a FG may be difference between a state championship and going home.
I recall a few years back, Gretna kicked a 50 yard field goal as time expired in first half and got accused of running up score. It was first FG attempt of the year. Gretna did not score in 2nd half, if my memory is correct.
I recall a few years back, Gretna kicked a 50 yard field goal as time expired in first half and got accused of running up score. It was first FG attempt of the year. Gretna did not score in 2nd half, if my memory is correct.
Years ago, I had a team that was down by 60+ to a team that won the state that year. They had a squad of about 35 and were wearing all white uniforms so you could see who had played and who didn't (it was a mud bowl type of field that night). It was at least 40-0 at half. The very last series with less than a minute to go, they sent in 9 out of the 11 in the non-muddied uniforms. First thing opposing coach said when shaking hands was "Sorry, but I played everyone". Big difference in "played everyone" and calling the dogs off. It wasn't late in the season also, so gearing up for the playoffs was not a concern.
But if they hadn't of kicked a FG and went for it and scored a TD then they would have been criticized even worse. Then it would have been 85-8. Fact is you can't tell kids to stop competing no matter what the score is. Especially kids who don't always get to play every week. They need the game experience as well because they are only one injury away from being a starter.
Oh boo hoo. Somebody call the WAAAAAAMBULANCE.
LOL....I'm not crying just stating facts. Chatham is one our local rivals so I never pull for them but why should a good team run up the score just because they can.....
obviously you are stubborn and just dont want to see this game for what it was. I dont see you saying anything about Gretna getting 70 put on em Friday?
Look....Coach Smith did everything he needed to do as a coach to keep the score minimized except punt on 1st down (which I dont believe in). He had people running the ball that never touched a snap in 4 years, had the WHOLE JV team in 4th qtr, running clock, etc.
Chatham muffed a punt in the 4th qtr in the endzone that put us on the 8. We scored an PICK 6 in 4th qtr, we had a qb run up the middle on a 40 yard TD rush qb draw with nobody touching him in the 3rd, etc. But....you only want to see it through your stubborn eyes.
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Looking at the box score, it was a 23 yard kick. That means the LOS was around the 5 or 6 yard line. You don't punt from there.
Yeah I guess they should have punted from the 6 and given them a touchback. Smh.
Chill out my man! It was a simple question. I did not think about the LOS being so close...my bad. I would shake my head too but will instead offer to buy you a bag of kettle corn and a soda if MC and KW have a rematch in the first round of the playoffs...which I heard was a good possibility.
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My take is that if coach pulls the starters and puts in JV guys, he's prob. not going to have all of his 2nd stringers at practice on Monday. I know I'D be ticked as all get out.
On the flip side, I don't know the rules on JV guys for the playoffs, and they sure won't get the chance to play this week, so I could see that.
I would like to respond to several posts above on this topic. Yes Chatham has a new coach this year and has a very young team, I think CHS graduated 20 of maybe 27 players from last year. I think this coach from talking to people from Chatham is trying to do things the right way. When you are not having a very successful season and there is a new coach the older players on the team many times get certain attitudes. I was told that coach sat 4-5 of his best players and took most all the JV players and played many of them from the get go against Appo. Now when you only have 20-21 players on varsity and you are not very good anyway sitting 4-5 against a team like Appo is going to get you an even more lopsided result. I have never seen Coach Smith intentionally run up the score on teams to embarrass them and do not know why he would start now. I was once accused of running up the score in a JV game when up 30 in the 4th qtr. I had my back up QB in the game and we ran 10-12 QB sneaks in a row for a 70 yd. TD drive, it took about 6 minutes off the clock and there were still 3-3 1/2 minutes left after we scored. Do I tell my back-ups to take a knee with 9 minutes to play just because they got playing time in the 3rd qtr? 81-8 really surprised me, I was not at the game but I would hate to think Coach Smith ran up the score.
I see some posters on here appalled at such a score. It seems to me not to very long ago Gretna put a 80 something to zero beat down on AltaVista and laughed about it all the way home. Them criticized AltaVista for going the route Nelson is going to try and get interest back in football and turn their fortunes around, well it seems to have worked. I have heard many Hawks are upset about last week when AltaVista hung 70 on them. I also remember Gretna playing at Chatham up 49-0 with less than a minute to play in the first half and executing an onside kick so they could throw a couple of long passes and get up 56-0 at half. That was okay I guess since it was Gretna doing the piling up of the score.
I have no dog in this CHS-Appo ordeal, I have coached high school sports for over half of my life and follow many of them closely. I think Appo being extremely talented and very well coached as well as Chatham maybe making a statement for the future that no one player or players are above the team no matter how good you made for a terrible outcome of a game that was going to be lopsided anyway. Kudos to coach for trying to do the right thing if this was the case, to bad it was against the most talented team they will face all year. A former CHS coach did the same thing and got his brains beat out for a couple of years. In about 3-4 years they ended Gretna's state championship run at 2 straight in the first round of the regionals before dropping a heartbreaker to Manassas Park the next week. And HR6 I know Gretna beat Chatham the week before and that re-match should have never happened.
I see some posters on here appalled at such a score. It seems to me not to very long ago Gretna put a 80 something to zero beat down on AltaVista and laughed about it all the way home. Them criticized AltaVista for going the route Nelson is going to try and get interest back in football and turn their fortunes around, well it seems to have worked. I have heard many Hawks are upset about last week when AltaVista hung 70 on them. I also remember Gretna playing at Chatham up 49-0 with less than a minute to play in the first half and executing an onside kick so they could throw a couple of long passes and get up 56-0 at half. That was okay I guess since it was Gretna doing the piling up of the score.
I have no dog in this CHS-Appo ordeal, I have coached high school sports for over half of my life and follow many of them closely. I think Appo being extremely talented and very well coached as well as Chatham maybe making a statement for the future that no one player or players are above the team no matter how good you made for a terrible outcome of a game that was going to be lopsided anyway. Kudos to coach for trying to do the right thing if this was the case, to bad it was against the most talented team they will face all year. A former CHS coach did the same thing and got his brains beat out for a couple of years. In about 3-4 years they ended Gretna's state championship run at 2 straight in the first round of the regionals before dropping a heartbreaker to Manassas Park the next week. And HR6 I know Gretna beat Chatham the week before and that re-match should have never happened.
I vaguely recall a discussion about that Jenkins game. Maybe it was on a different site, but no one seemed ver y upset about it. Maybe it was because few of us knew enough about Jenkins.
