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How I would fix the unbalanced Class 4 regions.

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I know that Billy Haun mentioned that he wants to focus on regional balance. Per the VHSL website, the regions for Class 4 are out of whack again for the final two years of the current four year cycle. The number of schools in each region under the current proposed plan for two years beginning in 2025 is:

Region A: 11
Region B: 18
Region C: 9
Region D: 15

This is what I would do since it appears that we don't have any monumental changes in terms of structure coming down the pipe in order to help even up the regions a little better. I keep a running total in parentheses as I go down my little list.

Move Eastern View, Caroline, Chancellor, Courtland, King George, and Spotsylvania from Region B to Region D. (This would give Region B 12 schools and Region D 21 schools.)
Move Handley, James Wood, Liberty (Bealeton), Millbrook, and Sherando from Region D to Region C. (This would give Region D 16 schools and Region C 14 schools.)
Move Charlottesville, Orange County from Region D to Region B. (This would give Region D 14 schools and give Region B 14 schools.)

There you go. This keeps district schools together (I think). And the regions are now as follows in size:

Region A: 11
Region B: 14
Region C: 14
Region D: 14

Here's some of my rationale.

I moved the Battlefield schools out west because for years, Halifax County, George Washington, and the larger Roanoke area schools had to come to Charlottesville, Albemarle County, and Stafford County for regional play. And vice versa of course. The drives really aren't that bad overall (King George and Caroline have a little extra hike but nothing not manageable when it comes to regional play).

And someone has to be paired with the western schools. This time around, I think the Battlefield schools should be the ones under the current system we have. The distances between the schools I just mentioned above are actually a little further than the Battlefield schools (except for maybe King George and Caroline which may be closer to what they were before).
The five schools I moved from Region D to Region C just makes sense because it keeps all of those schools together in Northern Virginia.

Also, moving Charlottesville and Orange County from Region D to Region B also allows them to join Louisa County in regional play at Louisa County drops back down to Class 4 next year. Plus, they all get the best of both worlds being affiliated with and playing both the Charlottesville and Richmond schools.

I don't think the Battlefield schools overall click with the Richmond area schools so that was another (yet smaller) reason why I moved them out west. And before anyone complains (because they take hypotheticals so personal), I didn't move your team because I had some type of vendetta against them. I've been a long time Battlefield guy and went to a Battlefield school so I thought this would be the best option under the current system we are in.

Barring some drastic realignment (such as what I have proposed on this board several times), I think these are probably the best compromises.
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Well, Well. Week 10. What caught my eye this week?

BoKnowsSports
Crazy as it sounds, think Louisa and Fleming are the two most exciting teams in 5C. I don’t have a lot of faith in Matoaca. They outta be ashamed of themselves for that schedule they played (these studs been in their program all 4 years; definitely should’ve set a 2 year contract up to play Varina/Highland Springs/Maury/Phoebus). Playing Henrico and Ponax is CRAAAZY WORK. Bryce Yates definitely brings another element to that offense at QB. With the talent they have and schedule they’ve played, I’d like to have seen Maury and Hayfield numbers.
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Well, Well. Week 10. What caught my eye this week?

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m-squared said:
What caught my eye is Spotsylvania (4-5) scoring 35 points on King George. 28 of them were in the first half and they scored in the 3rd quarter to make it 40-35 before King George pulled away. The got the win and that's what counts. Spotsylvania must have played a heck of a game to hang with them well into the 3rd quarter. King George is great offensively but are they good enough defensively to hang with Varina, Dinwiddie, and Huguenot?

Congratulations to Varina on their big win today.

4B will be very interesting.
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Spotsylvania actually scored 42.
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Phoebus 27 Warwick 17 FINAL

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Agibbs757 said:
Also let's be honest if PHS was a high powered offense that isn't more conservative that game is a blowout. Where you look at maury game last year they boat raced them off the field same as dinwiddie did to them.
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in my head we are the 2008 Patriots on offense 🤣 but yeah i get it we are a defensive team that can score at will when needed but mainly wear teams out. But as Maury fan you have to know the trash Warwick was talking to yall all year last year only to get whooped. I think if they matchup Maury will try to shut them out and put up 50 to embarrass them.
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Breaking News: New Playoff Format for Class 6 and Class 4.

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EPJr said:
you talk like that was a bad thing.
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It was. Not because they ended up with the two best teams, but because they created a situation that went against what had been announced prior to the season and followed for years. The change also robbed two other teams of a chance to reach the final. Unless they adopt reseeding after a specific round or rounds this is wrong.
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Phoebus 27 Warwick 17 FINAL

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Phoebus Fan said:
This sounds good on a forum surrounded by people that have no clue what’s actually going on outside of game results.

I’m just keeping it real i will not go into details. They have stacked the team with transfers last 3 years plus the PD is very down right now and their OOD game is a bad Grassfield team…that’s why they’re 9-1. The DC is the only coach on staff that is legit in my eyes. They have a lot of people on the sidelines that just talk trash online and do nothing else. I could really go in because it’s a reason Maury’s DC is so vocal about Warwick.

One last thing let’s be honest Phoebus had Phoebus on brink of an upset. The special teams blunders is the only reason that game was close. They did absolutely nothing on offense but one play…they talked all offseason and season and did nothing to back it up. If it’s not obvious yet i don’t like that staff and the parents that talk in those Facebook groups.
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Also let's be honest if PHS was a high powered offense that isn't more conservative that game is a blowout. Where you look at maury game last year they boat raced them off the field same as dinwiddie did to them.
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Final: Tazewell 245, Graham 185

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2up2downNole said:
Nothing illegal with diving at the knees. Holding on afterwards, yes. But that is just an old fashion cut block that you are talking about. You can only cut block players that start on the LOS. Can't cut block in high school down field like you can in college. Also the players doing the cut block must start on the LOS and can be no wider than the tight end.
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Very good explanation of the rule.
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NEW cheat sheets for Region D are up

BleedingNavy
@General172011, I can shed some light on things.

Dinwiddie, Varina, Huguenot, and KG win.

#1 Dinwiddie, #2 Varina, # 3 Huguenot #4 King George.

Dinwiddie and Huguenot win and Varina loss.

#1 Dinwiddie, #2 Huguenot, #3 Varina #4 KG

Dinwiddie loss, Varina Huguenot win:

#1 Varina #2 Huguenot #3 Dinwiddie, #4 King George

Dinwiddie and Varina loss. #1 Huguenot, #2 Dinwiddie, #3 Varina, #4: KG

Courtland vs. EV winner finishes #5. Hanover can finish #6 with a win and #7 with a loss.

Powhatan should win, but they will only pick up 24 points plus a likely 3 rider points. That will not be enough to hold off Atlee if they win. Win or lose Henrico will come up a few points short and Monacan must beat Huguenot to make it in.

Hope this helps big guy!
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NCAA/NFL Pick em Week 10 Results and Standings

mike salem
Still waiting on finish of the KC/TB game, but everyone picked KC anyway. I'll update after the game.

Congratulations to Champ Cage for winning this week's Pick em!

Champ Cage 24
mike salem 23
tylerrossfc10 23
SFUWO 23
m-squared 22
FoxesPride 22
Gunz41 21
Scalvinscaliwag 21
ArcticBuc 20
Ampipe_High 19

Champ Cage 180
mike salem 173
Gunz41 168
FoxesPride 165
SFUWO 165
tylerrossfc10 163
Scalvinscaliwag 161
Ampipe_High 157
m-squared 156
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Question for the brain trust.

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DinwiddieProud said:
On the NFHS Network, I occasionally see a listing for some Virginia schools for Coed JV of Freshman foorball. Is Coed football a real thing? We all know that the occasional young lady plays on a football team, but does coed football mean that it’s structured to have a certain number of boys and girls on the field as a rule?
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Strictly a guess from checking the website but I'd imagine when NFHS goes to list a broadcast they have a big list of all potential sports they cover so that you can also search by that when trying to find a game e.g. men's basketball, men's soccer, women's soccer, etc. they've got to label it something, right? So when they go on the website to do this there's probably a big list that pops up in alphabetical order and the next thing alphabetically under "Junior Varsity Boys Football" is probably "Junior Varsity Coed Football" so whoever listed that Louisa vs Goochland game tonight probably just mislabeled it. Additionally, a quick check tells me Louisa is finishing their season this Friday against Goochland and a quick trip to Louisa's football program website tells me they have their boys JV game against Goochland tonight so yea, simply a mislabeled event.
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2024 Class 6 Region C/D Power Points

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SV-Viking4 said:
The very recently published numbers from VHSL are quite a bit different and not the mentioned differences from above.
Robinson, Lewis, Centreville, West Pot., Edison, Mt Vernon, Alex City, Falls Church.

Most only by a point or 2, but Robinson???

Alexandria City 21, James Robinson 13
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You are correct, there were some inconsistencies. I always reconcile what I have with VHSL when they release their points. Part of the issue is a lot of schools simply do not post finals, and I wind up relying on a single point of failure. During the final week of the season, I always get two sources just to make sure things like this don't happen.

1. Had the winner of Meridian/Warren County incorrect. NFHS had the wrong score listed on their lower third. So even when consulting video, it was wrong.

This resulted in a McLean -2.

2. Had the winner of Colgan/Forest Park incorrect. Don't remember where I got that score.

This resulted in a Lake Braddock -2, Alexandria +1.

3. Had the winner of T.J./Lewis incorrect. This game happened back in Week 7. VHSL had this incorrect on their weekly ratings for the past three weeks as well. Scorestream still lists the incorrect score of T.J. 23-0. Lewis won 33-30.

This resulted in a McLean +2, Washington-Liberty +2, Mount Vernon +2, Edison +2, Justice +2, Falls Church +2, Annandale, +2.


What impact did all of this have?

For Region D, no change for McLean as they +2/-2 netted zero points. Washington-Liberty does take a 2-point lead over Madison going into the final week. However, Madison is still in the driver's seat for securing the #1 seed. Washington-Liberty would need some help from some unlikely places (Annandale, Lewis, Falls Church) to have a shot. I'm not sure what a tie breaker would look like, but my guess is Madison would have an edge. Madison's SOS currently with 43 wins to Washington-Liberty's 42.

For Region C, small boost for Edison, Mount Vernon, and Alexandria, but it doesn't change their standings or any of the scenarios.

So, here's the updated points. I've also updated the above scenario for Yorktown, as Ballou lost tonight's game, which lowers Yorktown's ceiling.

Region C
Hayfield (260) 32.50
Lake Braddock (278) 30.89
West Springfield (254) 28.22
Fairfax (248) 27.56
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South County (235) 26.11
West Potomac (221) 24.56
Edison (218) 24.22
Mount Vernon (212) 23.56
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Alexandria City (209) 23.22
Robinson (208) 23.11
Falls Church (195) 21.67
Annandale (193) 21.44
Justice (187) 20.78
Lewis (182) 20.22
C.G. Woodson (167) 18.56

Region D
Washington-Liberty (314) 34.89
Madison (312) 34.67
Langley (279) 31.00
Westfield (278) 30.89
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Herndon (266) 29.56
Yorktown (253) 28.11
Marshall (279) 27.90
Oakton (230) 25.56
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Centreville (226) 25.11
McLean (226) 25.11
Chantilly (225) 25.00
Wakefield (201) 22.33
South Lakes (198) 22.00
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