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Heck no, this game is not bothering me in the least. @Phoebus Fan do you ever read someone's post in full. Not once did I ever say I expected to win on Friday. In fact, I said to @OCBoy that I hoped we didn't give up 55 points. We were soundly beaten by a way better team and well oiled machine. Thoroughly enjoyed watching the talent on display. Again, I have been concerned about this mentality and non compliance for several years. I love HS football and sports in general. You obviously are not seeing the decline in participation like many localities are.

@CountryClubJoesSecretAlias brought to the table the same issues I am griping about. He may understand it, but did he condone it? I appreciate his opinion either way. He even said "what do you do?".

Everybody has a different opinion and most of the people who offer up excuses or justification know they are taking advantage of a flawed system that cannot be monitored correctly. Whether it's right or wrong it's always about getting mine!

Obviously, you sleep well at night and so do I. Totally respect your opinion without any animosity. Discussion is what this board is about.
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Preseason Class 2 Boys Basketball Top 10

Saw this posted on the 4A Fall Forum, and wanted to pass it along here:

Not sure if you saw this or not:
https://www.on3.com/db/ladarius-givan-236715/.

Ladarius Givan 6’9, 4 star from Alabama just transferred into John Marshall high school in Richmond.
Probably googled JM and realized the great education opportunity. Basketball is a plus.
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I'm not here to take up for Phoebus or any of these other schools because I don't know their exact situation, but I can tell you that's just generally how it is at a City school.

I don't think some people realize how close some of these schools are. You can pull out of the parking lot at Chambers on IBM drive and be at Mallard Creek or West Charlotte in about 10 minutes, North Meck about 15 minutes, Hough another 5 or 10 minutes depending on traffic. That's how close the communities are.

We don't have open enrollment in CMS. I wasn't aware there was any open enrollment in VA. We have IB schools, which is not uncommon. West Charlotte can get kids from all over because that's an IB school, even if it's not their home school. If all the kids went to their neighborhood school, you're still going to end up with the same thing.

The single high school counties actually have a big advantage imo. If you have four or five middle schools feeding a program, you should be good. You don't have worry about player movement nearly as much or coaches taking off to a school right down the road. That's much easier.

If you're at a City school, you can lose a dozen players over the off-season, easily. What do you do?
Thank you! Somebody gets it. Hampton has 4 high schools within 10 minutes of each other….matter fact Phoebus and Kecoughtan are basically on the same street.

Week 5 Pick'em

1 point per pick, GOTW worth 2. Picks are due by Friday @ 7pm. If games are Thursday, it is your responsibility to pick game b4 game time. If games are earlier than Thursday the game will not count. No score predictions needed.


Tabb @ Poquoson
Nottoway @ Amelia Co.
Central-Lunenburg @ Buckingham Co
Strasburg @ King William
Sussex Central @ Greensville Co
Heritage-Lyn @ LCA
Carroll Co @ Patrick Co
Radford @ Alleghany
Union @ Gate City

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Gretna @ Appamattox Co

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In your opinion what will it take for the other PD schools to start making some noise? It can't be they all are just lacking athletes. Is coaching in the area currently bad?
These other programs just don’t have the culture and seem to want to be good right now. I only see the culture at Phoebus and Warwick. Hampton, woodside, and even Denbigh seem to be establishing something. Other teams I’m clueless about. Kecoughtan and Bethel have a talent and coaching issue outside looking in

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@GoBlue2109, I appreciate your post. The strange thing is I truly enjoy watching Maury play. Their qb is elite.

No sir if Dinwiddie had pulled the upset I would feel the same way. I have been riding this horse for three years now.

Man, the Maury team is unreal and fun to watch. I respect the talent and coaching staff of the Commodore's. Besides, I love good football and they play it.

I did not make up the numbers, nor did I say anything false about Churchland. The QB Newkirk and running back "fat man" Clark are both from Churchland and destroyed us. Facts!

A school official that I personally spoke to from Maury prior to the game said "we had a lot less transfers this season, only seven and we lost two to Granby". @awjones1978, review and compare Maury's rosters from 2022-2024. I have no personal vendetta against anyone. I have made my stance clear.

Same as with Phoebus. I would be a hypocrite to say I don't enjoy watching those kids ball. Just like Maury, the Phantoms are an elite squad taking advantage of a broke system. I don't fault them for playing cards they are dealt. Wish both programs the best.

@GoBlue2109, I appreciate your post. The strange thing is I truly enjoy watching Maury play. Their qb is elite.

No sir if Dinwiddie had pulled the upset I would feel the same way. I have been riding this horse for three years now.

Man, the Maury team is unreal and fun to watch. I respect the talent and coaching staff of the Commodore's. Besides, I love good football and they play it.

I did not make up the numbers, nor did I say anything false about Churchland. The QB Newkirk and running back "fat man" Clark are both from Churchland and destroyed us. Facts!

A school official that I personally spoke to from Maury prior to the game said "we had a lot less transfers this season, only seven and we lost two to Granby". @awjones1978, review and compare Maury's rosters from 2022-2024. I have no personal vendetta against anyone. I have made my stance clear.

Same as with Phoebus. I would be a hypocrite to say I don't enjoy watching those kids ball. Just like Maury, the Phantoms are an elite squad taking advantage of a broke system. I don't fault them for playing cards they are dealt. Wish both programs the best.
QB1 came from Bayside not Churchland and sat at QB his first year at Maury, my point is they may transfer but they still must be developed. I appreciate your points.

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I have heard you say "they played rec ball together" a hundred times. What does that have to do with anything. AAU mentality! Go back and look up your posts. Even you bragged last year about Phoebus picking up kids from other Hampton schools and justified it by saying "they want to play for a winner". @Phoebus Fan your logic justifies the state of affairs and my argument "If Phoebus wanted to be an all star team we could have combined with Warwick". Really, isn't Warwick in Newport News? Take a look at your roster moves in the past four years like I have and tell me I'm wrong.
First and foremost i can tell that loss really got to you…the season is not over!!!

Kids grow up playing together and simply continue to play together in high school it’s no problem. Tell me in the past 4 years what roster move we made besides Noah Jefferson (whose family moved to Hampton), 3 from Woodside (their whole team left), and Tyree Diggs from Warwick this year (was a complete unknown and moved to Hampton)?? All the rest of the kids started at Phoebus. I get your point about Maury because they literally got some all district players from other schools to come in. But like i said those boys grew up playing together and just reunited in high school. Plus Phoebus and Maury draw kids from areas where kids their age aren’t allowed to be kids anymore and grow up around a lot of violence and other nonsense. I rather them boys on the field than on the streets. I commend both Blunt and McCain plus their staffs on the job they do to keep their boys motivated and one tracked mind with all the negative influences around them on the daily. This is bigger than football.

Honestly it’s smart to build at the rec league level. That’s what makes small towns like Dinwiddie and Poquoson good. Yall establish a culture early on and build a brotherhood.

Now name Phoebus transfers the last 4 years…

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@BleedingNavy The transfer thing is one of the things that ruins the sport for me. I honestly don't mind when a family moves to another area, because whatever people move all the time. But when transfer announcement post started and the nonsense "Please respect my decision" mess started happening that's when it went off the rails. I know a lot of people will disagree with me and I'm not knocking it or taking away from the accomplishment, but it's a reason why I never bring up the Varina state championship. That year they got multiple transfers after dropping dropping from C5 and it just didn't feel like a homegrown championship. That year was definitely not #BuiltOn5.

I do a lot reading about Texas football and they have plenty of issues there. But one good thing they do for athletic transfers for ANY reason is make them go through an application process to just double check things. Again it's not perfect because Duncanville has apparently had like over 20 kids in the last couple of years be approved but at least they have some type of process
@GoBlue2109, I appreciate your post. The strange thing is I truly enjoy watching Maury play. Their qb is elite.
Churchland did not “lose” any players to Maury and 22 players transferred to Maury is inaccurate and in my opinion this is a slap in the face to the work the Maury coaches have done to put this team and last year’s team together. Don’t care how many “good” players you have if they ain’t coached up you still gonna lose. I suggest you look at the coaching at some of these schools before blaming parents and kids for playing on championship teams… Maury is a program not just a team. If Dinwiddie had pulled off the upset this post would be way different.
No sir if Dinwiddie had pulled the upset I would feel the same way. I have been riding this horse for three years now.

Man, the Maury team is unreal and fun to watch. I respect the talent and coaching staff of the Commodore's. Besides, I love good football and they play it.

I did not make up the numbers, nor did I say anything false about Churchland. The QB Newkirk and running back "fat man" Clark are both from Churchland and destroyed us. Facts!

A school official that I personally spoke to from Maury prior to the game said "we had a lot less transfers this season, only seven and we lost two to Granby". @awjones1978, review and compare Maury's rosters from 2022-2024. I have no personal vendetta against anyone. I have made my stance clear.

Same as with Phoebus. I would be a hypocrite to say I don't enjoy watching those kids ball. Just like Maury, the Phantoms are an elite squad taking advantage of a broke system. I don't fault them for playing cards they are dealt. Wish both programs the best.

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I have heard you say "they played rec ball together" a hundred times. What does that have to do with anything. AAU mentality! Go back and look up your posts. Even you bragged last year about Phoebus picking up kids from other Hampton schools and justified it by saying "they want to play for a winner". @Phoebus Fan your logic justifies the state of affairs and my argument "If Phoebus wanted to be an all star team we could have combined with Warwick". Really, isn't Warwick in Newport News? Take a look at your roster moves in the past four years like I have and tell me I'm wrong.

What about the Hurricane kids that went to LIFE and then transferred to Huguenot? Same with Maury no damn way 22 families moved to Norfolk.

The VHSL's monicker is supposed to be "fair play". Aint a damn thing right about what I saw on Friday night and then you have room to say Phoebus is the only team that can play with Maury. I guess they could with every damn good player from a long standing fertile football area using open enrollment. Highland Springs took all comers won big and now the sky is falling.

I don't detest any of these kids, schools, or coaches. I simply can no longer sit idly by watching this fraudulent BS being ignored by the powers to be and grown men acting like they have done it with integrity. It ain't about Dinwiddie!

I'm not here to take up for Phoebus or any of these other schools because I don't know their exact situation, but I can tell you that's just generally how it is at a City school.

I don't think some people realize how close some of these schools are. You can pull out of the parking lot at Chambers on IBM drive and be at Mallard Creek or West Charlotte in about 10 minutes, North Meck about 15 minutes, Hough another 5 or 10 minutes depending on traffic. That's how close the communities are.

We don't have open enrollment in CMS. I wasn't aware there was any open enrollment in VA. We have IB schools, which is not uncommon. West Charlotte can get kids from all over because that's an IB school, even if it's not their home school. If all the kids went to their neighborhood school, you're still going to end up with the same thing.

The single high school counties actually have a big advantage imo. If you have four or five middle schools feeding a program, you should be good. You don't have worry about player movement nearly as much or coaches taking off to a school right down the road. That's much easier.

If you're at a City school, you can lose a dozen players over the off-season, easily. What do you do?
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This is an interesting topic. Offer no excuses about the Friday night result. The Dinwiddie fans were fully aware of what could happen and it did. Our "small" 40 homegrown kids got a full dose of D1 power five talent and took our tail beating.

I do find it interesting that every team mentioned is an all star team from its surrounding area. Not going to deny the fact that the 757 is loaded with talent.
Throughout the state the better teams mentioned can easily reload with transfers/open enrollment.

@BoKnowsSports you mentioned Churchland beating Hopewell. Can you fathom how good the Truckers would be if they would not have lost their best players to Maury. Two of them just destroyed Dinwiddie.

I am not trying to pick on the 757 nor am I whining. People, right or wrong 22 really good kids have transferred to Maury in 2 years. Hell a prominent Maury person acknowledged this fact before the game and even said "We only got seven transfers in this year". Just seven? He further noted the Commodore's did lose a few backups to Granby. Freedom Woodbridge/Hayfield 15-17 Huguenot 16-18. Even Phoebus has acknowledged kids leaving other Hampton schools and playing for Phoebus.

There is a reason, most (not all) of the Hampton, Portsmouth, and Norfolk schools are struggling to compete. Stick your chests out if you want, but ask yourself could my team dominate like this with kids zoned in my area?

The member schools/VHSL are waking up and growing tired of the AAU style recruitment. There is a lot of in fighting in both of the 757 and 804 regions right now regarding this matter and the fallout is right around the corner. Win while you can.
Churchland did not “lose” any players to Maury and 22 players transferred to Maury is inaccurate and in my opinion this is a slap in the face to the work the Maury coaches have done to put this team and last year’s team together. Don’t care how many “good” players you have if they ain’t coached up you still gonna lose. I suggest you look at the coaching at some of these schools before blaming parents and kids for playing on championship teams… Maury is a program not just a team. If Dinwiddie had pulled off the upset this post would be way different.
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