3A East Bracket

[Imahokie]

3A East – 16 teams – sectionalized bracket (Conferences 25/27 paired and 26/28 paired) – cross bracket after regional semifinals

So is this how it breaks down?
25/27 Pod
Phoebus 27.20
Poquoson 20.75
York 19.75
Park View-South Hill 19.50
Colonial Heights 18.00
Lakeland 16.75
Tabb 16.75
B.T. Washington 15.25

26/28 Pod
Brentsville District 22.00
James Monroe 20.75
Hopewell 19.25
Culpeper County 17.50
Petersburg 16.75
Armstrong 16.50
Skyline 16.00
John Marshall 15.75

 

[shauntclair]

Jeez. Can't we just have James Monroe play Phoebus and be done with it.

 

[mvwarrior]

Jeez. Can't we just have James Monroe play Phoebus and be done with it.

No disrespect to the other teams but I second that shauntclair!

 

[ThaGolden1]

No disrespect to the other teams but I second that shauntclair!

if we are gonna be brash,,,lets just end the season now and hand phoebus the trophy...for that matter, in the sake of saving money, injuries, blowouts, etc.., cancel football in 3a until the vhsl reclassifies phoebus and just give them the next 5 yrs worth of state trophies. the rest of the state is playing at the level of jr. league when matched with phoebus....sorry boys, 3a east will rule the next decade as long as phoebus is there...phoebus beats jm 60-0 unless they put 4th string in...then I see maybe 55-6...keep in mind jm squeaked by a very poor outing by York (40-0)loss to laf.....plus side?! look at how much yard work we can all get done now

 

[shauntclair]

if we are gonna be brash,,,lets just end the season now and hand phoebus the trophy...for that matter, in the sake of saving money, injuries, blowouts, etc.., cancel football in 3a until the vhsl reclassifies phoebus and just give them the next 5 yrs worth of state trophies. the rest of the state is playing at the level of jr. league when matched with phoebus....sorry boys, 3a east will rule the next decade as long as phoebus is there...phoebus beats jm 60-0 unless they put 4th string in...then I see maybe 55-6...keep in mind jm squeaked by a very poor outing by York (40-0)loss to laf.....plus side?! look at how much yard work we can all get done now

JM / Phoebus was for the Eastern Region. Teams like Brookville will certainly have their say in the Final. JM played York at the start of the year with mostly a new team that didn't even know if they were a passing or running team yet. And York is actually pretty good. You're really reaching if you think Phoebus would so easily beat JM. Just ask the Dinwiddie guys or even the last few undefeated Lafayette squads that had to face JM in the playoffs.

I suppose my stance here is that no one else in 3A East is close to JM or Phoebus. One of these two will rep the East in the Final. IMO. Just looking at the current list should make that pretty clear. And JM may even enter the playoffs with 3 losses and still be one of the two favorites to rep 3A East. Gotta' have perspective.

Good luck with the yard work. Fall is the best planting time.

 

[dringtuoti]

Jeez. Can't we just have James Monroe play Phoebus and be done with it.

Just found another one that I agree with. That region is weeeeeaaaaaaaakk.

 

[DEVILSLB99]

Just found another one that I agree with. That region is weeeeeaaaaaaaakk.

Looks just like 4a West last year. Everyone knew that it would be Salem-Liberty

 

[DEVILSLB99]

3A East – 16 teams – sectionalized bracket (Conferences 25/27 paired and 26/28 paired) – cross bracket after regional semifinals

So is this how it breaks down?
25/27 Pod
Phoebus 27.20
Poquoson 20.75
York 19.75
Park View-South Hill 19.50
Colonial Heights 18.00
Lakeland 16.75
Tabb 16.75
B.T. Washington 15.25

26/28 Pod
Brentsville District 22.00
James Monroe 20.75
Hopewell 19.25
Culpeper County 17.50
Petersburg 16.75
Armstrong 16.50
Skyline 16.00
John Marshall 15.75

Please sleep on Hopewell as they play in one of the toughest districts top to bottom in the Central District. There are no nights off, and they will be battle tested come playoff time.

 

[ShadesMcgrades]

Y'all keep on writing off Magna vista, it will make it even sweeter come playoff time

 

[BleedingNavy]

Y'all keep on writing off Magna vista, it will make it even sweeter come playoff time

The title of this thread is 3a East. Magna Vista, Brookville and whoever play in the West. Phoebus, JM and Hopewell are the favorites in the East and East only at this point.

 

[shauntclair]

Y'all keep on writing off Magna vista, it will make it even sweeter come playoff time

Magna vista doesn't play in 3A East.

 

[ThaGolden1]

phoebus is first through 6 then its jm(maybe)..phoebus plays only 5a and 6a teams...but keep dreaming,,its the American way...why do you think vegas is so successful

 

[ShadesMcgrades]

I know they're not in east just referring to shauntclair comment "teams like brookville will have there say in final"

 

[5starpick]

I am willing to bet that people don't put Pheobus so high on the pedestal after this week when Heritage knocks them off... And then Hampton... and possibly Woodside...

 

[Lafayette]

My 2 cents is the that currently HS football in Virginia is dysfunctional. Unlike other states, somehow regions can set their own playoff format (byes, number of qualifying teams, cross bracket or not to). It should be totally controlled by VHSL and completely standardized. Also you have teams playing in districts that have no resemblance to the playoff region teams. Phoebus at 3a playing all larger schools, Lafayette playing half smaller schools- even a 2a club. This also makes seeding skewed. If you are in 3a or 4a those are the teams you play during the season and your seeding is calculated on.

 

[dringtuoti]

I am willing to bet that people don't put Pheobus so high on the pedestal after this week when Heritage knocks them off... And then Hampton... and possibly Woodside...

Why would we jump off the Phoebus bandwagon if they lose to some 5A and 6A teams??

 

[mvwarrior]

My 2 cents is the that currently HS football in Virginia is dysfunctional. Unlike other states, somehow regions can set their own playoff format (byes, number of qualifying teams, cross bracket or not to). It should be totally controlled by VHSL and completely standardized. Also you have teams playing in districts that have no resemblance to the playoff region teams. Phoebus at 3a playing all larger schools, Lafayette playing half smaller schools- even a 2a club. This also makes seeding skewed. If you are in 3a or 4a those are the teams you play during the season and your seeding is calculated on.

I don't know much about the Hampton area but are there even any 3A schools for Phoebus to even play against in that region?

 

[Lafayette]

Yep- within 35 minutes they have York, Warhill, New Kent, Tabb, Poquoson. All the VHSl needs to do is force the schedules to be recast accordingly and eliminate the old district set up.

 

[5starpick]

Why would we jump off the Phoebus bandwagon if they lose to some 5A and 6A teams??

Because the 5A and 6A teams I spoke of are not of the elite teams of the state... and a few losses will show that Phoebus can be just as vulnerable as any team... 5A and 6A means nothing... I have watched a 2A South Carolina team with an enrollment of 800 kids that could mop the floor with the beach area teams, but at the same time, I have watched a couple of New Jersey 5A teams with 3000+ enrollment that couldn't win a Dogwood game...

 

[dringtuoti]

Because the 5A and 6A teams I spoke of are not of the elite teams of the state... and a few losses will show that Phoebus can be just as vulnerable as any team... 5A and 6A means nothing... I have watched a 2A South Carolina team with an enrollment of 800 kids that could mop the floor with the beach area teams, but at the same time, I have watched a couple of New Jersey 5A teams with 3000+ enrollment that couldn't win a Dogwood game...

Wow, what a terrible post. Hampton and woodside would mop the floor with most if not all 3a teams.

 

[5starpick]

Because the 5A and 6A teams I spoke of are not of the elite teams of the state... and a few losses will show that Phoebus can be just as vulnerable as any team... 5A and 6A means nothing... I have watched a 2A South Carolina team with an enrollment of 800 kids that could mop the floor with the beach area teams, but at the same time, I have watched a couple of New Jersey 5A teams with 3000+ enrollment that couldn't win a Dogwood game...

Even better than that... some may say this is crazy talk... but put Altavista of 2014 with the kids they lost like Navy Jones and Daquan Myers, and they could run with the best of any VA team that year... and they are a 1A school with 400 kids...

Its not about the dog in the fight... its about the fight in the dog!!!

 

[5starpick]

Wow, what a terrible post. Hampton and woodside would mop the floor with most if not all 3a teams.

you say that as if I have never seen either of those teams...

 

[VaPrepsRod]

Even better than that... some may say this is crazy talk... but put Altavista of 2014 with the kids they lost like Navy Jones and Daquan Myers, and they could run with the best of any VA team that year... and they are a 1A school with 400 kids...

Its not about the dog in the fight... its about the fight in the dog!!!

In games between schools that differ in class, I'll take the higher enrollment school and you take the lower enrollment school and we'll bet $10 per game.

Eventually you will lose enough money to understand why enrollment matters.

From 2000-2014, I would have won 67% of the games.

 

[5starpick]

you say that as if I have never seen either of those teams...

Have you ever seen Don Bosco out of NJ play? They have an enrollment of 300 kids and have been nationally ranked every year I can remember... And yes it is a prep school... but my point is... I will take quality over quantity anyday...

 

[5starpick]

In games between schools that differ in class, I'll take the higher enrollment school and you take the lower enrollment school and we'll bet $10 per game.

Eventually you will lose enough money to understand why enrollment matters.

That is unreasonable... because I would want your same proposal... There is NO DOUBT that the majority of GOOD teams are from the North and East areas... But as far as BEST teams, no I don't agree... look at it like this... through averages, yes, the east has a bunch of 6,7,and 8 teams on a scale of 1-10... But yes every once in a while 1A, 2A, 3A, and 4A produce a 9 or a 10 team... That is not to say that 5A or 6A doesn't produce a 9 or a 10...

 

[dringtuoti]

you say that as if I have never seen either of those teams...

If Phoebus goes 1-2 over their next 3, I'm still taking them over everyone in 3a east.
It's apparent you haven't.

 

[VaPrepsRod]

That is unreasonable... because I would want your same proposal... There is NO DOUBT that the majority of GOOD teams are from the North and East areas... But as far as BEST teams, no I don't agree... look at it like this... through averages, yes, the east has a bunch of 6,7,and 8 teams on a scale of 1-10... But yes every once in a while 1A, 2A, 3A, and 4A produce a 9 or a 10 team... That is not to say that 5A or 6A doesn't produce a 9 or a 10...

You may need to re-write that. I have absolutely no idea what point you are trying to make.

 

[dringtuoti]

Have you ever seen Don Bosco out of NJ play? They have an enrollment of 300 kids and have been nationally ranked every year I can remember... And yes it is a prep school... but my point is... I will take quality over quantity anyday...

Comparing apples to oranges. Not even close to a fair comparison when you bring in kids that aren't in your zone.

 

[5starpick]

Never did I say I didn't think Phoebus couldn't win 3A East... if not all of 3A.... Only that people will start to see that they are beatable... They DEFINITELY have the edge because of the better talent they are facing NOW! But it is hard to disagree with the fact that all the 3A schools are putting them on that pedestal because of their tradition and not who they are putting on the field this year...

 

[anon_vu6vqwsr4nf3b]

Wow, what a terrible post. Hampton and woodside would mop the floor with most if not all 3a teams.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

If Phoebus meets JM, this place and HRVarsity will light up like Christmas after the game's results. JM would take Woodside behind the woodshed.

 

[dringtuoti]

Even better than that... some may say this is crazy talk... but put Altavista of 2014 with the kids they lost like Navy Jones and Daquan Myers, and they could run with the best of any VA team that year... and they are a 1A school with 400 kids...

Its not about the dog in the fight... its about the fight in the dog!!!

Even with those kids they wouldn't have ran with the best across the state in the upper divisions - go take your meds.

Plus you're making the point for me, you have to add kids to your 1A team to even think about making that argument. Last years Altavista team was awesome but it wasn't like they ran away from 1A Essex. It's really getting comical now, thx for the laughs.

 

[5starpick]

I didn't add anyone... those 2 kids were Altavista kids that transferred out...

 

[dringtuoti]

I didn't add anyone... those 2 kids were Altavista kids that transferred out...

You had to add them, they weren't at Altavista whether they transferred or not.

 

[5starpick]

That is unreasonable... because I would want your same proposal... There is NO DOUBT that the majority of GOOD teams are from the North and East areas... But as far as BEST teams, no I don't agree... look at it like this... through averages, yes, the east has a bunch of 6,7,and 8 teams on a scale of 1-10... But yes every once in a while 1A, 2A, 3A, and 4A produce a 9 or a 10 team... That is not to say that 5A or 6A doesn't produce a 9 or a 10...

Simply put it doesn't matter geographically where a great team comes from... most years it is the 4A-6A area teams... but sometimes they come from the lower enrollment schools

 

[5starpick]

You had to add them, they weren't at Altavista whether they transferred or not.

The beach area dominant team of the 90's was Hampton... and then Phoebus took the reigns... Do you think none of the Hampton kids transferred to Phoebus when that took place?

 

[VaPrepsRod]

Simply put it doesn't matter geographically where a great team comes from... most years it is the 4A-6A area teams... but sometimes they come from the lower enrollment schools

So, contrary to your previous post, enrollment does mean something. It certainly doesn't mean everything, but it does mean something

 

[DEVILSLB99]

Even better than that... some may say this is crazy talk... but put Altavista of 2014 with the kids they lost like Navy Jones and Daquan Myers, and they could run with the best of any VA team that year... and they are a 1A school with 400 kids...

Its not about the dog in the fight... its about the fight in the dog!!!

So add these two kids and Altavista can beat Bird, Lake Taylor, and or Ocean Lakes?

 

[5starpick]

So, contrary to your previous post, enrollment does mean something. It certainly doesn't mean everything, but it does mean something

Lets just say this... would you rather ride a BEACH TEAM with 2k enrollment over a team like Richlands that had that same amount of enrollment? Point is I would take my chances with the mountain grown boys...

 

[shauntclair]

No perspective.

 

[shauntclair]

Lets just say this... would you rather ride a BEACH TEAM with 2k enrollment over a team like Richlands that had that same amount of enrollment? Point is I would take my chances with the mountain grown boys...

Vegas lives off guys like you.