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Giles/Glenvar Update, Anyone?

Reward.. I completely agree #1 will become a important part in the passing game. He runs crisp routes and has really good hands
#1 made an awesome first down catch on 4th and long near the end of the game to keep the drive alive...otherwise we lose the game. Also thought #41, #28, #9 and unsung guys on the line had huge games....
 
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Ghs89er...with all due respect.. you are still on nagging on this and you keep assuming way too much...this young man was caught on a very, very small 2nd technical infraction..one that probably wouldn't be an infraction in most schools..probably not even yours. If it went to court it would have been thrown out in a NY minute. Glenvar/Roanoke County is VERY tough as far as enforcing the rules....tougher than most.

Your statement that he wouldn't even be playing at Giles is "Holier than Thou", and ALSO NOT TRUE. According to your own handbook...On the second offense and thereafter It is up to your superintendent alone to make the call after working with the player. That leaves plenty of room to get back on the playing field. Read your handbook for further information on this as you don't seem to know your own rule. I personally know of a young man of close family friend who played for Giles and got three chances to redeem himself after working it through with the superintendent (which I was grateful for) so your statement that 2 strikes your out is definitely not true. I also know of a very, very, very good player from Giles (I know you know who I am talking about) that had huge issues with this and so either he had more than two chances or lots of people just looked the other way. As far as I know he never missed a game.

So please..Stop throwing stones when you live in a glass house.
Seems to me that either I have bad info or your wrong...
Ghs89er...with all due respect.. you are still on nagging on this and you keep assuming way too much...this young man was caught on a very, very small 2nd technical infraction..one that probably wouldn't be an infraction in most schools..probably not even yours. If it went to court it would have been thrown out in a NY minute. Glenvar/Roanoke County is VERY tough as far as enforcing the rules....tougher than most.

Your statement that he wouldn't even be playing at Giles is "Holier than Thou", and ALSO NOT TRUE. According to your own handbook...On the second offense and thereafter It is up to your superintendent alone to make the call after working with the player. That leaves plenty of room to get back on the playing field. Read your handbook for further information on this as you don't seem to know your own rule. I personally know of a young man of close family friend who played for Giles and got three chances to redeem himself after working it through with the superintendent (which I was grateful for) so your statement that 2 strikes your out is definitely not true. I also know of a very, very, very good player from Giles (I know you know who I am talking about) that had huge issues with this and so either he had more than two chances or lots of people just looked the other way. As far as I know he never missed a game.

So please..Stop throwing stones when you live in a glass house.
I don't live in a glass house...I also know that guidance is important...let's look at the individual from giles you're talking about...from what I remember it was after season and how'd that end up...when I was in school if you were caught with drugs of any sort you were out of sports for the year and maybe expelled for the year...we like to say boys will be boys and make exceptions...it leads these young men to think their capabilities on the field outweigh the rules....it's obvious you disagree...If you worked where I do you might see my point...
 
This shows you don't know the rules in High School at all

If the defensive player crosses the line the play is dead and offsides is called period....dead ball penalty on the defense the second he crosses the line....this isn't college or the NFL....read the rule book
I stand corrected. Thanks.
 
I was glad I was able to see the game. What an atmosphere! This is my third game I have seen at Glenvar over the years and I agree that it is a good place to watch a game. I am a neutral observer and I will say that I saw poor calls by the officials for both sides. The offsides by Glenvar not called early in the game was obvious, the holding and cutting done by Giles on the perimeter were obvious. The hit #25 for Giles took on the sideline probably should have been called. But what do you people expect? They are human. Are some of them obvious to us, sure. Very rarely do officials cost the team a game and they didn't last night. It was closely matched game and the team that makes the other team do what they don't do well usually wins. Giles really couldn't run the football because Glenvar has the players to execute the scheme they run. I don't think there's some magical remedy to defend the single wing. The scores they got were set up by passes or penalties. Glenvar was able to stay pretty balanced on offense and that was the key to the game; not officiating. Both teams have legitimate beef against the refs so that's a wash IMO.

As for the talk about #2 for Glenvar. I don't know the kid form Adam but he's just seems to be a kid that you probably hate to play against but love to have on your side. Is he an irritant? Probably, but he plays to the echo of the whistle and he seems to want to hit someone every play(and he did). For some of you older people, he makes me think of Bill Lambier for the Pistons when they were the Bad Boys. I think all football teams want physical kids. He was dominant last night on both sides of the ball. I was really impressed with him and #25 for Giles. He took some hits I did not think he was getting up from and gave some as well. How much does he weigh? He plays much bigger than he looks. What a player.

And finally, as for the talk about the #7 player out for Glenvar. What does he have to do with anything from last night? I was hoping to see him play but unfortunately did not get to. Shame on some of you for commenting about this young man. None of us know his situation and you can say you hope he "gets his life together or his head on strait" but some of you belittle him and make fun of him on a public forum? That's hypocritical and I hope he doesn't read this thread. It sounds more like wishful thinking that he is no longer allowed to play football instead of wishful thinking that he gets his life together. Disappointed to see this.

Overall, great game! It looks like both teams have tough games this upcoming week as well. I always have loved watching Giles play, and I have several times. I'll probably watch them play Radford this week. I think Glenvar should probably win against Auburn since it seems they are as strong as it gets against the run.
Seems to me that either I have bad info or your wrong...
I don't live in a glass house...I also know that guidance is important...let's look at the individual from giles you're talking about...from what I remember it was after season and how'd that end up...when I was in school if you were caught with drugs of any sort you were out of sports for the year and maybe expelled for the year...we like to say boys will be boys and make exceptions...it leads these young men to think their capabilities on the field outweigh the rules....it's obvious you disagree...If you worked where I do you might see my point...
 

ghs89..I don't disagree with you on the principle of taking responsibility.

Where I disagree with you is on your relentless posts on here comparing what would happen in Giles vs. what Glenvar has done. Unless you are the superintendent of Giles (are you?) you could not possibly know what Giles would do. Why don't we just let the people who are responsible handle this instead of bringing it up here? They have his best interest and the best interest of the other students as well as the teams at heart. This I know to be true.
 
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ghs89..I don't disagree with you on the principle of taking responsibility.

Where I disagree with you is on your relentless posts on here comparing what would happen in Giles vs. what Glenvar has done. Unless you are the superintendent of Giles (are you?) you could not possibly know what Giles would do. Why don't we just let the people who are responsible handle this instead of bringing it up here? They have his best interest and the best interest of the other students as well as the teams at heart. This I know to be true.
I hope so....I have some insight into a small piece of this young man's life...I want him to do well...n I have seen athletes in this country get special treatment and in the end it does them no good...and i didn't know twice was relentless...but as I said before I don't know the story...but in 1989 I know a kid kicked out of all sports for the year for smoking weed at school
 
Would the referee with the dyed black beard please come and watch this game with me on video....look glenvar has a huge line and they are good...on a wet field with 2 weeks to get ready...but this ref wouldn't be able to explain himself...some things are just too obvious.....this game may happen again and hopefully it's dry and old beards isn't there..
Bad calls were made on both teams, really bad calls, and lack there of.
 
I have lost all respect for Giles fans, the comments on here are awful. To wish harm on another teams player, because he is a true bada$$ on the field. "Soft" players do struggle with his impact. Sad thing is most of the boys are friends off the field as they play other sports together, yes Spartans and Highlanders. I could say alot of things to make Giles look bad, but on here, no need they have done it on their own
 
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I know the kids of Giles and I would find it hard to believe if they talked trash but maybe they do, im not on the field so can't say for sure....But i know for a fact they don't shove players after the play and crap like that....#2 does all the time
You don't know Jack then, guys are reactive, you see shoving and smack talk, there's a reason, straighten your halo my friend it's football not biblestudy
 
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I hope so....I have some insight into a small piece of this young man's life...I want him to do well...n I have seen athletes in this country get special treatment and in the end it does them no good...and i didn't know twice was relentless...but as I said before I don't know the story...but in 1989 I know a kid kicked out of all sports for the year for smoking weed at school
Are you still talking about #7?! You are really scared of this young man on the football field. Giles had no answer for him during the playoffs last year, and Saturdays game would've been ugly if he did played. Nobody on Giles can cover him. Your post mentioned you want him to do well, but you also want him kicked off the team. Hokiebird.. trashed #2 cause his plays to the whistle and he talks to much. Trust me when he does talk he backs it up!! Hokiebird must have bionic ears, cause Its very difficult to hear players talking on the field when fans a cheering on thier team.
 
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Are you still talking about #7?! You are really scared of this young man on the football field. Giles had no answer for him during the playoffs last year, and Saturdays game would've been ugly if he did played. Nobody on Giles can cover him. Your post mentioned you want him to do well, but you also want him kicked off the team. Hokiebird.. trashed #2 cause his plays to the whistle and he talks to much. Trust me when he does talk he backs it up!! Hokiebird must have bionic ears, cause Its very difficult to hear players talking on the field when fans a cheering on thier team.[/QUOT. The child part of your name fits...I will say it one more time for those to hard headed to understand...my point is simple....we have allowed sports to override punishment in this country....at all levels and different sports...that being said I don't know the entire circumstances of the rules this young man has broken nor at this point do I really care....if the powers that be allowed him to participate then that's how they see it...if they don't it happens....but everyone should want the right guidance for this young man....so for the last time....I wish the best...and by that I mean what's best for his future not just football future....some of you can't see the forest for the trees
 
I hope so....I have some insight into a small piece of this young man's life...I want him to do well...n I have seen athletes in this country get special treatment and in the end it does them no good...and i didn't know twice was relentless...but as I said before I don't know the story...but in 1989 I know a kid kicked out of all sports for the year for smoking weed at school

Earth to GHS89er....YOU STARTED ALL OF THIS WITH YOUR "WEATHER AND RUMOR THREAD" before the game and then you've have had 8 posts directly related to this since. To say that "I didn't know twice was relentless" is the biggest understatement I have read on here in a long time. At least be honest about what you've posted on here otherwise the readers like me really do question whether you "have some insight into a small piece of this young man's life and want him to do well".
 
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Earth to GHS89er....YOU STARTED ALL OF THIS WITH YOUR "WEATHER AND RUMOR THREAD" before the game and then you've have had 8 posts directly related to this since. To say that "I didn't know twice was relentless" is the biggest understatement I have read on here in a long time. At least be honest about what you've posted on here otherwise the readers like me really do question whether you "have some insight into a small piece of this young man's life and want him to do well".
Let's just say I know a bit about his family through my work and leave it at that...u guys keep bringing this up.....like you said folks dealing with his situation have HIS best interest at heart....so let's hope whatever they decide is what's best to quite him and teach him...the only thing negative I've said about the situation is that too many times our love for sports has overlooked bad behavior by athletes....as I have stated before...it happens everywhere....but how it's handled matters...now let's this go...I only asked before the game if he was out....from what I hear he'll be back by playoffs so you guys can calm down...geez....
 
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So now Giles fans knows what it's like to play in Salem area lol, for some funny reason every time your team has a good play or long run or touchdown there always seem to be a penalty bringing it back
 
You people crack me up....as i've said numerous time congrats to Glenvar on the hard fought win Saturday night.....enjoy it Highlanders
 
So now Giles fans knows what it's like to play in Salem area lol, for some funny reason every time your team has a good play or long run or touchdown there always seem to be a penalty bringing it back
Yeah you would be correct and glad you just decided to sign up and post...you bring a lot to this board
 
Wasn't able to go to the game but listened on the radio and have read all the comments here. Today I saw a friend who is a long time Spartan fan and who has a good deal of experience in officiating. He spent most the game watching with a long time and well respected football official in Roanoke, a gentleman who has called many big games. His take was that there were a number bad calls/no calls but they went both ways and he couldn't say that any call affected the outcome of the game. From what I heard, the crew assigned to that game wasn't the best in the association. My only complaint is that given the implications of the game with two undefeated teams, the Commissioner should have assigned one of his best crews to that game. Regardles calls get missed at every level and that will continue for as long as the games exist. Even though I saw none of them, realistically unless its a call or no call that results in a team scoring points or getting points taken off the board, how could you ever say that a call affects the outcome of the game. Apparently the offsides call that was missed was blatant. So instead of losing two yards Giles gets the 5 yd penalty. Maybe they would have run a different play on the next down and fumbled or threw a pick 6. There's no way to know. If a penalty is called, its usually pretty unlikely that the next play would be the same as what was ultimately run. When Giles got the ball back after the missed 2 point try with about 4 minutes left as I recall, I thought they could win with a couple of first downs. They didn't get them and Glenvar got the ball back and got their field goal. Questionabe call on that drive. But if they don't get that call maybe the next play is a TD pass. No way to tell. As I see it Giles controlled their destiny at the end and couldn't take advantage. Give the Glenvar D credit for that too. Until we learn to throw some 10-15 yard passes, good defenses that load the box are going to give us trouble. We were banged up from a hard hitting game Monday night and Glenvar was well rested. At this level most teams don't have a lot of extra players with the same talent level so being lucky enough to avoid injury is a big part of winning a championship and you have little control over that. But as my friend said, the better team on the field won Saturday night. Props to them. Maybe we get to see them again or maybe both of us lose to someone else before then. Either way enjoy watching your teams play. The season goes by too fast!
 
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"When Giles loses, it usually is the refs fault!" --Overheard from an ADULT fan Monday morning...

I'll leave that there.
 
"When Giles loses, it usually is the refs fault!" --Overheard from an ADULT fan Monday morning...

I'll leave that there.[/QUOTE]

Then chalk one up for the Refs. Refs 1 Giles 0. There can't be any other reasons. It's Giles after all.
 
Giles had them beat. They could of went up 21-7 but they didn't that's how it goes. Glenvar had just as much trouble with giles d as giles had with glenvars d. To me I don't see either of these teams beating richlands or union, but ya never know until they play.
 
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Giles had them beat. They could of went up 21-7 but they didn't that's how it goes. Glenvar had just as much trouble with giles d as giles had with glenvars d. To me I don't see either of these teams beating richlands or union, but ya never know until they play.
I would like to know when Giles could've went up 21-7. Giles never threatened to score on Glenvar in the 2nd half.
 
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I would like to know when Giles could've went up 21-7. Giles never threatened to score on Glenvar in the 2nd half.
they were lining up to kick a field goal til glenvar jumped off-sides which resulted in a giles 5 yd. penalty. does being in field goal range not count in your book as threatening to score?
 
they were lining up to kick a field goal til glenvar jumped off-sides which resulted in a giles 5 yd. penalty. does being in field goal range not count in your book as threatening to score?
He said Giles could've been up 21-7. Giles jumped off sides, not Glenvar. A field goal is 3 not 7. He should've said they could been up 17 not 21.
 
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He said Giles could've been up 21-7. Giles jumped off sides, not Glenvar. A field goal is 3 not 7. He should've said they could been up 17 not 21.
I don't know where he got that either. Unless he was talking about the pass the Biedleman kid jumped for and couldn't hang on to at the goal line, but Giles did score on that drive afterwards, so I don't know what he was talking about. I think Giles should have went ahead and attempted the FG at that point anyway. I know in wet sloppy conditions, they were probably at the kickers edge as far as range, but why not attempt. Instead they punted into the end zone, so there was really no difference.
 
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Giles had them beat. They could of went up 21-7 but they didn't that's how it goes. Glenvar had just as much trouble with giles d as giles had with glenvars d. To me I don't see either of these teams beating richlands or union, but ya never know until they play.

Giles and Glenvar can play defense and control the ball on offense from what I saw on Saturday night. In my not so professional opinion I would say they can beat anyone in 2A.
 
Giles and Glenvar can play defense and control the ball on offense from what I saw on Saturday night. In my not so professional opinion I would say they can beat anyone in 2A.

So you dont think Union and Richlands can beat anyone in 2A? Richlands has a nasty defense too and can put up points fast. One could argue even a better defense. If i recall correctly Giles was in a fairly close game with Graham at half. Richlands didnt allow Grahams offense to score, even against their jv. And it was 49-7 at half.They have 6 very good receivers that i cant see anyone in 2A having enough good dbs that can cover them all and theyre all juniors but 1. Just my 2 cents.
 
I certainly am not implying that at all. I just think the 2 teams I saw Saturday can beat anyone in 2A, as could the 2 teams you mentioned from what I hear. I still want to catch them play this year. I know those other 2 teams are good. I have no dog in the fight, just my opinion. And good thing the offense is only allowed 5 eligible receivers at a time if a team has 6 that are too good to be covered. I'd play zone
 
I would like to know when Giles could've went up 21-7. Giles never threatened to score on Glenvar in the 2nd half.
Well let's see, how about when Giles was about to kick a field goal to go up two scores that would have more then likely put the game away and draws Glenver offsides once again and of course the penalty goes against Giles? Or could have been talking about the long run Giles got on the busted play that put them deep in Glenver territory when the ridiculous targeting call was made. Everytime Giles was about to break the game open or had a big play Glenver got help. I don't care what the posters say on here about when Giles loses it always the refs fault. This case and this game itbwas, period. I was even more pissed after going back and watching it again. I love how u never post anything Mannschild until Glenver beats giles. It's obvious u hate Giles, has been for years. I really get it though. I say enjoy it why u can. After this year it will be the same old at Glenver and once again Giles will be in the mix like always. People can say what they want but I know most people don't want to see these two teams play again. I however do. A neutral crew, a dry field and I have no doubt who wins the game. I think deep down u Glenver fans know it's true. I have posted on this board a long time and I post only the facts. I have laid back and just read since the game on Saturday, however I'm tired of reading the garbage on this thread. Despite a wet field, a one sided official crew, and tired Giles team and a fresh Glenver team u still struggled to even win the game and I hesitate to say win. I for one beg to play again. I do agree with the above poster however. Giles or Glenver will not play for state this year.
 
I would like to know when Giles could've went up 21-7. Giles never threatened to score on Glenvar in the 2nd half.
Well let's see, how about when Giles was about to kick a field goal to go up two scores that would have more then likely put the game away and draws Glenver offsides once again and of course the penalty goes against Giles? Or could have been talking about the long run Giles got on the busted play that put them deep in Glenver territory when the ridiculous targeting call was made. Everytime Giles was about to break the game open or had a big play Glenver got help. I don't care what the posters say on here about when Giles loses it always the refs fault. This case and this game itbwas, period. I was even more pissed after going back and watching it again. I love how u never post anything Mannschild until Glenver beats giles. It's obvious u hate Giles, has been for years. I really get it though. I say enjoy it why u can. After this year it will be the same old at Glenver and once again Giles will be in the mix like always. People can say what they want but I know most people don't want to see these two teams play again. I however do. A neutral crew, a dry field and I have no doubt who wins the game. I think deep down u Glenver fans know it's true. I have posted on this board a long time and I post only the facts. I have laid back and just read since the game on Saturday, however I'm tired of reading the garbage on this thread. Despite a wet field, a one sided official crew, and tired Giles team and a fresh Glenver team u still struggled to even win the game and I hesitate to say win. I for one beg to play again. I do agree with the above poster however. Giles or Glenver will not play for state this year.
 
I certainly am not implying that at all. I just think the 2 teams I saw Saturday can beat anyone in 2A, as could the 2 teams you mentioned from what I hear. I still want to catch them play this year. I know those other 2 teams are good. I have no dog in the fight, just my opinion. And good thing the offense is only allowed 5 eligible receivers at a time if a team has 6 that are too good to be covered. I'd play zone

They rotate a couple of them. Actually if you throw the tight end in there its 7. I believe two are seniors. So i was wrong on that part. Its all good. Just felt like replying to your comment. Not saying they cant be beat. Its already been proven they can along with Giles.
 
Winger..I also want a rematch badly to settle it once and for all. Both teams rested (Giles was fatigued from Monday) , both teams at full strength with their best players (Glenvar had one of their best 2 way players out, don't know about Giles); dry field (which will help Glenvar's passing game and Giles downhill running game); different refs which will be assigned by the VHSL (no promises there). If we do play again it will be either at Glenvar or Salem Stadium. (both favor Glenvar but don't forget Glenvar had to go into a hostile environment 2 times at Giles last year)

No doubt we finally have a rivalry. Nothing like controversary to hype things up. Still hope either Giles wins state if Glenvar doesn't. We don't see eye to eye about this game at all but that doesn't lessen my respect for you guys or your program.

If either team loses to Radford, a rematch is a real possibility.
 
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Only thing is BOTH of those programs have won a ring, lol. And the whole officiating thing does apply in our situation also. OUT OF BOUNDS
Sorry I couldn't resist Trevor.
 
Sorry to inject our stuff in here because I loved watching Giles play even though we lost that game. Great group that plays very disciplined.

As for Glenvar, I haven't seen your team play but I gotta love you guys for taking down Wilson. It's just like that, nobody in our "district" if not us. It's how I roll....#RollPride
 
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Question for Giles fans, administration, coaches and more importantly VHSL, why is it that yall can blow that horn when opposing team is on offense about to call a cadence? How is that fair and i see it as cheating. I admire yall for the fan base you bring and the atmosphere you create, but that horn is ridiculous at the times yall blow it. Churches wanted to order 2000 blow up thundercrackers for the Appomattox Raiders last year and VHSL said they are banned. HUH?! but train horns blowing when opposing team is at the line of scrimmage about to call cadence is not against rules???
 
Question for Giles fans, administration, coaches and more importantly VHSL, why is it that yall can blow that horn when opposing team is on offense about to call a cadence? How is that fair and i see it as cheating. I admire yall for the fan base you bring and the atmosphere you create, but that horn is ridiculous at the times yall blow it. Churches wanted to order 2000 blow up thundercrackers for the Appomattox Raiders last year and VHSL said they are banned. HUH?! but train horns blowing when opposing team is at the line of scrimmage about to call cadence is not against rules???
Where do you draw the line? Cow bells? Jug of rocks? I think making as much noise as you possibly can while the offense is getting set is pretty much common practice by all fans, for all teams, at all levels.
 
60 minute, Look, Im pretty sure a train horn that sounds like 10 at once is justified as being unfair. Man made audio sound coming from bleachers is one thing (all your mentioned items), but blowing a horn that is deafening is poor sportsmanship.
They dont even do that in college or NFL????!
BTW, Giles landed on the opposite side of poor reffed games in the past and now all I hear is yall whining? Need I remind you of Appomattox vs. Giles 2 years ago in playoffs? Them refs got in trouble for reffing that game so poorly according to some of the sources I know.
 
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