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It will not hurt wrestling at all. Basketball is a different story. Baseball/Softball, probably not much difference. Track, cross country, tennis will be harder at regional and state play but, not to bad. Volleyball, I have no idea.It will really hurt all the other sports . Football will be competitive should they move up .jmo
Auburn is really good in all sports except footballBut if you have followed the last few years, the Gladiator girls have at least been competitive against the Fort whereas the past couple of meetings with Auburn have been blowouts. However, I think Auburn finally graduated its superstar, so maybe that dynasty will not be QUITE as overpowering in the future.
LOL charlie22650, teams being a problem that have similar number of students is kind of the way it is supposed to be. Even for great 2A football programs like Appo, Graham, King William, S.Draft, they still have problems with other 2A schools. That's kind of how it's supposed to be.Imagine that.
Let's say there was no suspicion on numbers in the past, and all there was was geography/scheduling/competitiveness while in 1A in most sports and ability to be competitive in 2A in most sports/and number of students and projected growth of the area. Riverheads has no argument for staying Class 1 in any of the above categories. When a team appeals, do they have to list reasons? I wonder how it was written up? What possible argument is there to appeal on?Riverheads arguing to stay in 1A does nothing but fan the flames of those who has been suspicious of them manipulating the numbers the past few years. As there is no reason geographically not to go 2A
Redpride, that right there makes sense to me. If u got a huge class and u know you likely are gonna be hovering at or below the cutoff in 2 or 3 years, then that sounds like something a team could appeal about. I never thought about that, but have wondered the reason for the appeal.What is the cut off for 1A in the newest alignment cycle? I ask because there is an abnormally large freshman class this year. The only logic I can come up with is that RH will fall back below that line mid cycle and everyone will bitch and moan about that too. If what I have read is correct the adm is 7 or 9 over the hard cutoff. As I stated before I am for playing up but the absurdity of any school fudging numbers to play football is laughable at best. All you keyboard warriors unite and stand your ground over the unproven and ludicrous accusations of the number scandal. For the record it’s the third AD since this non sense was first brought up and I would have to think someone would have spilled the beans by now with so many being involved in this orchestrated and far reaching coverup, lol. Sounds plausible to me, someone should have to answer for this.
I was told, VHSL didn't set a hard-line cutoff for any classification with the intent of settling disputes (or appeals) on a case by case basis, not based on ADM's hovering around an arbitrary number. I can't speak to the validity of the claim, just repeating what I was told by an administrator.What is the cut off for 1A in the newest alignment cycle? I ask because there is an abnormally large freshman class this year. The only logic I can come up with is that RH will fall back below that line mid cycle and everyone will bitch and moan about that too. If what I have read is correct the adm is 7 or 9 over the hard cutoff. As I stated before I am for playing up but the absurdity of any school fudging numbers to play football is laughable at best. All you keyboard warriors unite and stand your ground over the unproven and ludicrous accusations of the number scandal. For the record it’s the third AD since this non sense was first brought up and I would have to think someone would have spilled the beans by now with so many being involved in this orchestrated and far reaching coverup, lol. Sounds plausible to me, someone should have to answer for this.
I thought you count 4 classes.The classes behind this group will drop back to average around 105 I believe which when you take 3 would put them at 315 to possibly 325. No argument from me on playing where you belong but someone will always be the largest group and conversely there will be one that is the smallest. I was hoping that we would not appeal but if that was the reason for consideration, I can somewhat buy that. Otherwise I honestly can’t figure it myself.
No doubt rhsgrad, RH isn't a bunch of cheaters. What RH's has done has been amazing and it's something that wlll be talked about for decades in Virginia High School Football, but you gotta see the bad taste in many people's mouths when RH is appealing to stay Class 1 when they have Class 2 Numbers based on how solid they've been in not just football, but other sports. Even if barely Class 2 numbers and possibly dipping back to Class 1 numbers the next cycle, the fact is they have Class 2 numbers during this recount. So knowing that, and I think I'm in this group, I just can't understand why there would be a fight? Why on Earth would RH's argue or appeal to play Class 1? Based on the success and the usual crazy arguments or debating how well RH would do or not do if they were Class 2, why on Earth wouldn't you want to shut the doubters up and be begging to play Class 2, forget about appealing to stay Class 1, but if your a football coach or admin person, I would have argued to play up 3 years ago for the competitive nature of doing so. But even if no argument 2 or 3 yrs ago to play up with Class 1 numbers, it is just mind boggling to me as to how you would actually argue, fight, or appeal to stay Class 1 at present with Class 2 numbers? You have to admit from an outside fans perspective, it's just a bad take man.Your post does not really deserve a response but I take serious exception to your saying Riverheads is a bunch of cheaters. It is a great school to have a child in and far from a bunch of cheaters.
I don't think they are either. But I'm not everyone. And I'm warning others not to say something like that.Your post does not really deserve a response but I take serious exception to your saying Riverheads is a bunch of cheaters. It is a great school to have a child in and far from a bunch of cheaters.
I agree with you mmqp on RH shouldn't have appealed, but the RH fans I've met over the years were just first class people. Even on this message board, good people. Having watched em on the field over years and their coaches on the sidelines, just nothing but class and 100 percent respect.I don't think they are either. But I'm not everyone. And I'm warning others not to say something like that.
What I am encouraging is for people to point out legitimate reasons for them being put in 2A and losing that appeal.
Whether you like it or not, it is a bad look for them to appeal considering their success over the years. And when you toss in the attitude that some of their fans have exhibited when you consider the rest of 1A is basically told to just "get better and deal with it"... like I say, provide legit reasons to the VHSL for denying their appeal. I respect the program, I respect the accomplishments. I believe it when it was said they're down around 450 students, but I think they should also be expect to accept it and deal with moving up when the numbers say so.
Most of them are great people. I'd say most of the guys who have commented on this thread or in reply to my post are the good guys.I agree with you mmqp on RH shouldn't have appealed, but the RH fans I've met over the years were just first class people. Even on this message board, good people. Having watched em on the field over years and their coaches on the sidelines, just nothing but class and 100 percent respect.
Riverheads has always played where the VHSL has put them . If Class 2 is where they are then great ! Should make for much better contest in Football . Not sure why they want to stay down ?On the RH fanbase. About all fans are rooting for their school regardless and at the end of day, I would bet a RH fan will be as enthusiastic if they are in Class 2 or Class 1. But, i ain't sure the majority of RH fans are for staying Class 1. I think the majority would be in favor of going Class 2 if they had their preference.
On the RH fanbase. About all fans are rooting for their school regardless and at the end of day, I would bet a RH fan will be as enthusiastic if they are in Class 2 or Class 1. But, i ain't sure the majority of RH fans are for staying Class 1. I think the majority would be in favor of going Class 2 if they had their preference.
Didn't RH claim 474.5 adm a few years back?What is the cut off for 1A in the newest alignment cycle? I ask because there is an abnormally large freshman class this year. The only logic I can come up with is that RH will fall back below that line mid cycle and everyone will bitch and moan about that too. If what I have read is correct the adm is 7 or 9 over the hard cutoff. As I stated before I am for playing up but the absurdity of any school fudging numbers to play football is laughable at best. All you keyboard warriors unite and stand your ground over the unproven and ludicrous accusations of the number scandal. For the record it’s the third AD since this non sense was first brought up and I would have to think someone would have spilled the beans by now with so many being involved in this orchestrated and far reaching coverup, lol. Sounds plausible to me, someone should have to answer for this.