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Unofficial Region 4D Point Ratings

The fact that JF and Gretna are playing again for next cycle is crazy work.
I like this matchup. Gretna beat JF in Crews 1st year and in year 2 it took a 4th quarter drive, last years game was close. This year it was lopsided but JF got a ton of experience and teaching tape on pass defense as Gretna has a great passing game with one of the best qbs in the area. He is also a junior so he will be back next year. It is also a great power points game for JF as gretna usually wins 7-8 games each year.

Unofficial Region 4D Point Ratings

@BoKnowsSports and @jffootball23 you both have made valid points. I tend to lean towards Bo regarding scheduling tougher ood opponents, because it pays off in more ways than one. I will admit that the Seminole is a very tough district to maneuver and in most years most of the teams are playoff bound, so JF theory holds value. The difference is variety. By playing the same old district teams every year and beatable ood teams you don't get to see how your team will respond to the unfamiliar and an occasional smack in the mouth. It also provides additional rider points for a higher playoff seed if you defeat a quality opponent.

I have no clue who will win between GW and JF if they play, but what I do know is GW has used its tough ood schedule to put itself in position to play at home throughout the playoffs. Couldn't have been done without it. Good luck fellows.
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Feeling a bit frustrated today.

Good morning all.

Welcome to the end of the regular season. The greatest time of the year goes by way too quickly.

You're probably wondering...what's the deal with my subject line? Well here we go.

I'm posting this on this board since by far, the Class 4 Board has way more visibility and discussion than the other boards. And as a Class 4 guy, that makes me happy.

And I will say that what I'm going to mention does not affect my school or my district. Well remotely it does...I guess you can say indirectly as we live in the era of the power points system. So I'm mostly relieved about that.

But as head into the final week of the regular season, I can't help but feel heartbroken for the schools who canceled their seasons outright, canceled their seasons part of the way through, or just recently canceled their seasons. I'm not going to get into the reasons as to why schools canceled at least a part of their seasons. That's not the reason of this post. However, it's disheartening.

I feel bad for these schools and the opponents of those schools...especially over the last few weeks of the regular season. Schools that don't have time to find an opponent. Schools that don't have an opportunity to provide a true Senior Night experience for their kids...and that includes the band, cheerleaders, and others who deserve recognition. I also feel bad for these schools due to the gate(s) that they lose out on which go a long way in helping support other athletic programs within those schools. This causes these athletic departments to scramble to find those funds they were counting on from their gates and concessions. I don't know officially, but I would not be shocked if there were schools that lost multiple home games for whatever reason. That's painful.

This is why I think the VHSL (yes, I know...people are like, he's whining about the VHSL again), should once again step up (that's asking much I know) and state that they must be informed by the March before the upcoming season if schools are going to field a team or not. This will allow them to compile a list of schools that will not be fielding teams for that upcoming Fall so that affected schools can have a little bit of time to find replacement opponents. It's not like these schools do not know their enrollment numbers already and; therefore, know the potential pool of athletes that they can pull from. They should know if they are going to be able to adequately field a team or not.

A line has to be drawn in the sand here and action must be taken. There's no shame in saying, "you know what..we're only going to have 13 kids this Fall...we're not going to field a team". I'd rather know that earlier than right before the season. Kind of like a bad relationship. I'd rather have it end early, then end later after having time and effort invested in it.

By the way, I think this should apply to all sports. For Fall sports, you can have a March 1 drop dead date. For Winter sports, you can have an August 1 drop dead date. And for Spring sports, you can have a November 1 drop dead date. Those are just examples of what you can do.

So that's me on my soap box this morning. We know that sports participation is down. But these forfeits and cancelations are becoming way too common. And it's sickening and disappointing to see.

Here's a chance for the VHSL to step in and do something right and show leadership to help ease the pain of any schools which may be negatively affected.

Unofficial Region 4D Point Ratings

GW will beat JF. GW’s schedule was much tougher than JF.
Compare the two schedules and tell me which side wins more games?
On the left are Gw's and JF on the right. So tell me how GW has a harder schedule?

Gw vs JF
dinwiddie LCA
Magna Vista Heritage
Amherst Amherst
Glass Glass
Halifax Halifax
SR SR
Martinsville Brookville
Bassett Gretna
Mecklenburg Rustburg
Tustall Liberty

Unofficial Region 4D Point Ratings

For reference, I said heard.. I didn’t give a definitive take cause I wasn’t there.

Again, gotta read my posts my man. I said OOD. GW schedules who they can and doesn’t run from any competition. Definitely would’ve liked them to play JF, Fleming, Herirage or Botty instead of Staunton River but these things are scheduled 3-4 years in advance so it’s hard to gauge who’s gonna be good. Dinwiddie, Glass and Amherst > Gretna, Halifax any day. As far as the Piedmont goes, it is what it is. Magna Vista and Mecklenburg was good competition going into the playoffs.
GW did schedule a tough ood schedule and JF would do the same if they played in the piedmont. Jf does not play in the Piedmont they play in the Seminole district and every year that district is a meat grinder. The belief by seminole coaches is that if you survive the district healthy you have a shot to be practicing on Thanksgiving day. It is the opinion of the Jf powers that be that playing a harder non-district games would not help but actually hurt the team. Did JF play a tough schedule? The answer to that question is yes they will be battle tested. Has GW played a tough schedule and I would say they have so they are battled tested. How they got the tough games is irrelevant.

Unofficial Region 4D Point Ratings

A couple of things the call on the last drive that you reference was not bad. It was absolutely the right call. Amherst did not agree with the call that does not make it bad. The other point about schedule is also ridiculous from a GW stand point. JF plays in the seminole district not the piedmont district big difference. Jf plays LCA, Heritage, Amherst, Rustburg, Glass, and also scheduled Staunton River. Staunton River beat the second best team in the Piedmont. GW might beat JF but it is not because JF has not seen enough competition during the year.
For reference, I said heard.. I didn’t give a definitive take cause I wasn’t there.

Again, gotta read my posts my man. I said OOD. GW schedules who they can and doesn’t run from any competition. Definitely would’ve liked them to play JF, Fleming, Herirage or Botty instead of Staunton River but these things are scheduled 3-4 years in advance so it’s hard to gauge who’s gonna be good. Dinwiddie, Glass and Amherst > Gretna, Halifax any day. As far as the Piedmont goes, it is what it is. Magna Vista and Mecklenburg was good competition going into the playoffs.

Matoaca @ Dinwiddie

One correction bro, Fleming is 9-0. MaxPreps had Franklin County over them 41-7 but it’s wrong. I like Fleming to go to the big game. They’re well coached and play disciplined football. Maury will be a huge challenge but Fleming is probably their best match up in C5 out 64 West.
Fleming is a lot better than last year, but getting out of the Reg will be tough. IDK how good Matoaca is, compared to last year, but they smashed Fleming 42-3. I have no doubt Fleming can do it, but playing Richmond area competition in the playoffs will be a big step up compared to the BRD & RRD schedule they've played so far.

20248/30Hidden Valley900W1AwayRoanokeDwight Bogle StadiumNick Leftwich
20249/6Albemarle550W1HomeRoanokeFleming FieldNick Leftwich
20249/13Salem257W1AwaySalemSalem StadiumNick Leftwich
20249/20Patrick Henry Roanoke4113W1HomeRoanokeFleming FieldNick Leftwich
202410/4Halifax County490W1AwaySouth BostonTuck Dillard StadiumNick Leftwich
202410/11William Byrd2814W1AwayVintonRobert A. Patterson FieldNick Leftwich
202410/18Northside340W1HomeRoanokeFleming FieldNick Leftwich
202410/25Lord Botetourt3517W1HomeRoanokeFleming FieldNick Leftwich
202411/1Franklin County417W1AwayRocky MountCy Dillon StadiumNick Leftwich
202411/8Staunton RiverHomeRoanokeFleming Field

I'd love to see it, but there are some big obstacles in the way. I hope they rise to the occasion, and make it all the way to JMU. I can't see anybody beating Maury, but it would be a great experience for the players and coaches just to take that road together.

Hayfield

Guys & Gals - I know this is a hot button conversation item right now or better yet THE hot button topic... your friendly Publisher here just wants to chime in and state that we make sure we ALL stay within the Rivals & VaPreps message board posting guidelines.

That means let's not resort to any name-calling, personal attacks or obscene languge.

I don't mind the lively, spirited back-and-forth. We're not all going to agree, nor should we. I just don't need my notifications blowing up on a Football Friday (or any day for that matter) from my Admin team / board moderators... that is all. :)

Hayfield

Who you talking too!! I will type whatever I feel like because I'm willing to bet my life you never played a sport a day in your life. Where is your credentials?? Talking people like me. Once again another paraphrase or catchphrase with racial undertones. Expose yourself, because we can take this offline internet man lol. I'm not go do all this back and forth on internet. Like I said. Phoebus is one program that don't need spotlight when it comes to recruiting or transfer topics of attention. If you love your Alma Mater, I suggest you 🤫, before them "people" come down there to Darlington my boy lol.
"I'm not going to go back and forth on the internet"..... *Proceeds to go back and forth on the internet*

Lafayette 14 Poquoson 6

On Lafayette’s first play a bubble screen went for a TD. Oops, holding call, that ends that. Found out starting center had dislocated knee cap and did not play. Made pass protection very difficult and run blocking. All night the running plays averaged about 3 yards, not a single long run. Poquoson totally stuffed the outside stuff. Great defense. Lafayette 2 tds came on drives after a turnover, as did Poquoson’s. Both offendes never got it going. Last bad thing was in 4th Q starting Rb Simpson dislocated his shoulder again. Status unknown right now.

One play sums it up for Lafayette: 4th snd 3 on Poquoson 35 yard line. 2 minutes to go to half, no TO left. 100% of time Lafayette goes for it. They punted!!! Incredible lack of confidence.

Last couple years Bruton only played class 3 BRD teams but excluded Lafayette. Next year Bruton will be playing all BRD teams snd move up to class 3.
The VHSL realignment for next year is still showing Bruton in class 2 Region A. That will give class 2 Region A, 17 teams next season. No other Region will have more than 12 teams, and Region B will only have 9.
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Unofficial Region 4D Point Ratings

Amherst should have beaten JF. Heard it was a very bad call at the end.
A couple of things the call on the last drive that you reference was not bad. It was absolutely the right call. Amherst did not agree with the call that does not make it bad. The other point about schedule is also ridiculous from a GW stand point. JF plays in the seminole district not the piedmont district big difference. Jf plays LCA, Heritage, Amherst, Rustburg, Glass, and also scheduled Staunton River. Staunton River beat the second best team in the Piedmont. GW might beat JF but it is not because JF has not seen enough competition during the year.
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Hayfield

I do love that every person this guy internet beefs with MUST be racist. You can tell it’s just some guy hella mad about Hayfield getting caught and punished.

Pretty sure he’s specifically called out multiple black folk as racists now. It would be more entertaining if it wasn’t so sad and predictable.

“I’m not going back and forth on the internet with y’all” says the dude who is actively doing just that. Then talks big about “say it to my face” while hiding behind a username. You can’t make this stuff up!
You go first. I'll wait. I'm dead azz serious. I'm not hella mad. I've provided context and reasoning by my original premise the entire time, but it's folk like you that seems to have what we call selective hearing. You hear wtf you want to hear, because you to busy being argumentative and chatty patty like a bitter scorn woman, instead having a open dialogue like a rational human being or a man with some testicle fortitude. I said I don't agree with what Hayfield did, but what I don't like is how yall use racial undertones, name calling terms like "dirtbag or scumbag", and pinpoint things that you don't call out for many of these other white prestigious high football coaching staffs and programs. You in particular internet guy
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