EPJr said:

tried this, LCA has lots more resources than they do. The Justice system always favor the rich and powerful.

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All that does is put the VHSL(the organization) in the middle of a tug of war between its member schools and LCA and where does the funding for the lawyers come from. People just fail to ignore the practical realities of the situation and make baseless allegations as to what is actually happening. If they have a complaint and proof they should make it with specificity. If not, they should quit whining and adapt.

I think a games between Phoebus and Varina would a low scoring one with both teams probably only scoring through some sort big play, not too many sustainable drives. How Huguenot matches up with Phoebus is really interesting considering the depth Huguenot got on offensive

edwinanderson2nd said:

Phoesbus defense was far more dominant against HSHS, the springs actually didn’t have too many troubles moving the ball on Varina, they just shot themselves in the foot a lot. I think Phoebus front 7 is better than Varina and I’ve seen the springs play against both teams and it was 28-19 Varina against HSHS

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I respect it and agree that Phoebus looked better than Varina against HS. I think a huge part is HS is playing their best ball right now. That’s why we line up.

wikki said:

I would be for this and many others from the Seminole.

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tried this, LCA has lots more resources than they do. The Justice system always favor the rich and powerful.

GoBlue2109 said:

Time for a shakeup at Herm. Just way to much talent for them to not show any improvement over the last 3 years. I was high on them coming into the year but this is just who they are.

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agree
but the problem is higher than the athletic department

GoBlue2109 said:

Phoebus only beat King George by 10 and needed a miracle against Salem last year.
This year they've only played 2 teams with a pulse, HSHS win by 16 and Warwick by 10 points but were down late in the 4th. Varina beat that same HSHS team 28-13. Phoebus isn't some world beater this year or last year. They'll have to line it up and fight like everyone else.

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Phoesbus defense was far more dominant against HSHS, the springs actually didn’t have too many troubles moving the ball on Varina, they just shot themselves in the foot a lot. I think Phoebus front 7 is better than Varina and I’ve seen the springs play against both teams live. Also, it was 28-19 Varina against HSHS

Hokie1Pokie said:

Won't let em eat. We had a linebacker dun got turned out and turned down cauz he asked for sum mashed taters. Cafteria lady tole him to get his arze up out of the cafeteria. Wouldnt even give ole boy a carton of milk and dis been going on all week at Graham. Chow hall off limits to all Gmen. Our Boyz are hungry and ain't had nuthin Dedazz! They got to eat. They showin up for va high with empty stumach and empty bags to gather up truffles.

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Those dang cafeteria ladies being stingy with the grub! 😂

540football_Grandpa said:

Hopefully Lafayette can get back to full strength. I am holding out hope that one of the big 3 undefeated on this side of the bracket (Lafayette, TJ, and Kettle Run) can knock of Liberty Christian. Do you think the center and Simpson will be back or are their seasons over?

Kettle Run is dealing with an injury to their star back as well, he didn't play this past week. Hoping that both squads can either get those kids back or have a capable back-up stand up to the challenge.

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The center is gone, RB probably too.

540football_Grandpa said:

Hopefully Lafayette can get back to full strength. I am holding out hope that one of the big 3 undefeated on this side of the bracket (Lafayette, TJ, and Kettle Run) can knock of Liberty Christian. Do you think the center and Simpson will be back or are their seasons over?

Kettle Run is dealing with an injury to their star back as well, he didn't play this past week. Hoping that both squads can either get those kids back or have a capable back-up stand up to the challenge.

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the center is most likely gone for the season, Simpson the Rb is questionable but I wouldn’t count on his return. Lafayette does have another very good back in Tyree Wilson that has not seen as much time in Rb as I would have expected that may be a good solution. Lafayette does have a host of excellent backs and receivers but in the playoffs where it’s 4 tough quarters each week, rest is a key.

Yall got it. Run with the narrative idgaf. Talk football next time.

Now back to topic of the post. I like Varina because i think they’ll win the battle of the trenches.

Let’s all hope that JF has all of the players be able to make the trip to Stephen’s City this Friday. Sounds like he and others were provoked and did not initiate the fight.

Phoebus Fan said:

Here goes this dumb narrative again…you’re the one who even brought Phoebus up. This is the line that is said when football can’t be talked.

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Cry now, cry later. Like I’ve said all year.. All 3 804 teams will be ready for whomever in the big game if we can get past King George and the C champion. Don’t matter to me which one, just tired of hearing you cry and moan when people don’t agree with you. 804 gone whip that tail and make you cry even more.

Phoebus Fan said:

You literally dropped those scores without any context about how lock down the defense was in all those games. How tf am i hating i clearly said KG had a high powered offense and Salem was the best defense we’ve seen in the 4 year run. Plus none of yall have given any “ways another team might challenge Phoebus”. You’re literally just talking at this point…I’ll pass on this dumbass convo.

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You say we're hating on Phoebus when literally everyone says yall are the favorite. You go off the rails anytime someone says anything about another team being able to challenge Phoebus You make it a dumbass convo because you get so emotional at us not worshipping Phoebus.

BoKnowsSports said:

^^You every time somebody doesn’t pander to Phoebus… You cry more than my 1 year old nephew.

804 Football is deep. No hate over here. I know 100% of the Varina boys and follow Huguenot and Dinwiddie when they’re playing. Respect to all 3 teams. I’ll always be complimentary.

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Here goes this dumb narrative again…you’re the one who even brought Phoebus up. This is the line that is said when football can’t be talked.

CrushBlock said:

Crazy they lost to Blacksburg 48-12 in regular season. Dinwiddie should wear their regular season win with pride as well.

Any given Friday night.

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We played that regular season game with Big Pope & Big Red in the middle of our defense

MaroonDude said:

I don’t see a link

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mike salem said:

@Chuck Vipperman (GW) and any other GW faithful, if we get there early enough and you happen to see me, be sure to hollar at me.

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You bet!

Phoebus Fan said:

I’ve literally watched you go back on your words nonstop this season alone. So you’re doing a lot of stamping and changing your mind in my eyes…just a bunch of wishing going on.

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^^You every time somebody doesn’t pander to Phoebus… You cry more than my 1 year old nephew.

804 Football is deep. No hate over here. I know 100% of the Varina boys and follow Huguenot and Dinwiddie when they’re playing. Respect to all 3 teams. I’ll always be complimentary.

btowenatc said:

2017 Salem is the best HSFB team I've seen in person. To this day I swear they had 14 players on defense. and then Ramsey coming off tackle was a nightmare 😫

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2015, 2016, 2017 all State Championship years. Beat Lake Taylor, Dinwiddie, Louisa

SportsJunkie32 said:

I like Phoebus, different animal down in the 7-5. Coaching matters too, Blount has his men ready week in and week out.

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I don’t think people realize how hard it is to win 45 games in a row and keep a group of 14-18 year olds focused for 45 straight weeks.

gwb16 said:

"SOON"....was Friday....phone calls started Friday afternoon as soon as some coaches realized the VHSL is now powerless.

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I think everybody would be well served to take a breath and think before reacting on anything. They need to make sure they truly understand the actual ruling AND, whatever their response, the potential ramifications. In terms of development, high school is not only about athletics even though that is the focus of this site.

The mention of it happening between these teams before was for reference. For the record it was the 2017 game and I havent watched it since then but will go back if you are that interested in the EVIDENCE. One specific play I remember was a long pass late in the game by Draft where there were only a few seconds run off the clock on a scramble, then a pass for significant yardage. Literally impossible relative to the time ran off the clock. It didn't end up affecting the outcome, but it certainly could have in that 17-14 game. Thats why I say again that it doesn't matter even though it happens at times.

The main thing is that clock issues happen every week, that's a fact. By being micro focused on this, it looks petty. Unlike the first game, Draft didn't stop Riverheads offense but one time with the fumble recovery (twice if you count the 1-minute drive before halftime), and Riverheads didn't stop Draft but one time on downs, that is also a statement of fact. Objective people pretty much knew the last team with the ball would have a good shot to win it.

As has happened over the years you and I are never going to agree. I do not have rose colored glasses and think every think is rosy, but I am also not arrogant enough to think I know more than the 7 game officials. I didn't agree with a pile of stuff that night, but I also wasn't on the field and communicating with the other 6 guys officiating the game.

In the end the game is over and nothing we talk about will affect that.


PS
And if this wasn't about Draft losing, why do I not see you losing your mind about other teams that might have had the same thing happen? I get it, its personal but if you really are going to say that this is not pretty much standard week to week and something every team has to deal with, then who has the altered sense of reality here? For the record the clock operator needs to be a neutral VHSL official IMO. That would solve some issues anyway..........

GoBlue2109 said:

Context ? I watched the games brother. I promise you I know what I'm talking about. Yall's offense can be contained by any of the top 3 4B schools if you want context. But again you can't handle the thought of someone else talking about ways another team might challenge yall and its you doing the hating.

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You literally dropped those scores without any context about how lock down the defense was in all those games. How tf am i hating i clearly said KG had a high powered offense and Salem was the best defense we’ve seen in the 4 year run. Plus none of yall have given any “ways another team might challenge Phoebus”. You’re literally just talking at this point…I’ll pass on this dumbass convo.

Phoebus Fan said:

Clearly hating you did one of the worst breakdowns I’ve seen when talking football. A bunch of talking with zero context behind it.

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Context ? I watched the games brother. I promise you I know what I'm talking about. Yall's offense can be contained by any of the top 3 4B schools if you want context. But again you can't handle the thought of someone else talking about ways another team might challenge yall and its you doing the hating.

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"SOON"....was Friday....phone calls started Friday afternoon as soon as some coaches realized the VHSL is now powerless.

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Surprising, but I'm not surprised! SMH!