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Hayfield

The lower classification should just play anyways no matter what happens with this. They can't afford to have a delay, it will wreck their winter sports, the football players make up the basketball, wrestling and indoor track teams. Most schools can't field the other teams without the football players. Doesn't affect them one way so, who cares what is going on in NoVa. I still don't understand the fussing over a private school playing with the public schools. Just about every other state has multi private schools competiting against the publics. Va is just late to the party, but no need to get panties all in a wad. As long as the kids live in the school district it doesn't matter where they came from. Nobody is commuting from New York to Lynchburg so that has nothing to do with any of it. Things most be much different in NoVa and the tidewater with non moving transfers. Mass majority of the rest of the state doesn't even have those options or even concerns. But the local school system should never be allowed to conduct the final says investigation and never has before. The vhsl always conducts the deciding investigation. If these other past coaches got away with it, it is because nobody ever reported them to the vhsl. The vhsl doesn't go out actively looking for any of this, it has to be reported to them from a member institution. But it falls on the head coach and AD, they are responsible for the master eligibility list for their teams, it is their job to verify residency. If all the players live in the school district then there is no need for concern. But if they don't, then they are 365'd until that year is up. Only way around that would be open enrollment, but that only works if you live inside the county or city of that school system, can't come from different counties and cities and commute. It's where you lay your head at night 3 days a week. Not where you get mail or say you live. Should be pretty open and closed, they either all live in the district or they don't and then it is simple. But, it wasn't the vhsl that seeked hayfield out. Somebody in your own house turned it in or a neighboring school. That's the only way vhsl ever catches wind. What will be interesting is what attorney's in other parts of the state do, could see some lawsuits from other parts field against Hatfield. Definitely getting my popcorn out, but more than like won't be 💩.
Great write up. Most larger localities hire residency compliance officials within their school system to investigate any student in question. We know there’s some sketchy stuff going on with Hayfield but if FCPS has “investigated” and found no issues, then there’s technically nothing the VHSL can really do. It’s not like they can leave Charlottesville and post up at a student athlete’s house in question way in Alexandria. IMO, had Hayfield’s coaches just stayed lowkey, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

Everyone playing for 2nd

From the Phoebus Neighborhood/District in Hampton, VA, "we heard the same thing a couple of years ago and we don't believe you."
Yeah man we should’ve beaten them worse than we did too. We wanted them so bad again in 2022 to shut that coach up but Heritage beat them. The whole being this big bad private school in the public school league is weak. I’m rooting for Lafayette to knock that ish off!
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Handley at Salem

Safe travels to Handley down 81 tonight to Salem Stadium. Brings back great memories for me when I used to live maybe a half a mile if that, from Handley. Good luck to the Spartans and Judges this evening. Go out there and have a great game and put on a show for both your respected communities this evening. Good luck to the athletes, coaches, and both fan bases!
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Pick em Playoffs Week 1

C4

Warhill @ Churchland
Courtland @ King George
Eastern View @ Huguenot
Woodgrove @ Loudoun Valley
EC Glass @ GW Danville
Handley @ Salem

C5

Kempsville @ Indian River
Bayside @ Salem VB
Granby @ Warwick
Bethel @ Nansemond River
Louisa Co @ Midlothian
Hermitage @ LC Bird
Stone Bridge
@ Lightridge
Massaponox @ Independence

C3

New Kent @ Colonial Heights
Tabb @ Hopewell
Brentsville District @ Skyline
Rustburg @ Heritage
Staunton @ Turner Ashby
Wilson Memorial @ Alleghany
Staunton River
@ William Byrd
Christiansburg @ Magna Vista
Northside @ Lord Botetourt

C6

Thomas Dale @ Manchester
Patriot @ Gainesville
Woodbridge @ N Stafford
Colonial Forge
@ Stafford
Robinson @ Lake Braddock
South Co @ West Potomac
Herndon @ Westfield
George C Marshall
@ Langley

C2

Greensville Co @ Lunenburg Central
King William @ Southampton
Nottoway @ Bruton
Central Woodstock @ Buckingham
Fort Defiance @ Strasburg
Stuart's Draft
@ Riverheads
Appomattox Co @ Floyd Co
Lebanon @ Virginia High
Gate City @ Union
Tazewell @ Ridgeview

C1

Northumberland @ Westmoreland
Middlesex @ Northampton
Surry Co @ Sussex Central
Franklin @ Buffalo Gap
Parry McCluer @ Narrows
Giles @ George Wythe W
Craig Co
@ Grayson Co
Grundy @ Honaker
Patrick Henry GS @ Holston

Hayfield

The lower classification should just play anyways no matter what happens with this. They can't afford to have a delay, it will wreck their winter sports, the football players make up the basketball, wrestling and indoor track teams. Most schools can't field the other teams without the football players. Doesn't effect them one way so, who cares what is going on in NoVa. I still don't understand the fussing over a private school playing with the public schools. Just about every other state has multi private schools competiting against the publics. Va is just late to the party, but no need to get panties all in a wad. As long as the kids live in the school district it doesn't matter where they came from. Nobody is commuting from New York to Lynchburg so that has nothing to do with any of it. Things most be much different in NoVa and the tidewater with non moving transfers. Mass majority of the rest of the state doesn't even have those options or even concerns. But the local school system should never be allowed to conduct the final says investigation and never has before. The vhsl always conducts the deciding investigation. If these other past coaches got away with it, it is because nobody ever reported them to the vhsl. The vhsl doesn't go out actively looking for any of this, it has to be reported to them from a member institution. But it falls on the head coach and AD, they are responsible for the master eligibility list for their teams, it is their job to verify residency. If all the players live in the school district then there is no need for concern. But if they don't, then they are 365'd until that year is up. Only way around that would be open enrollment, but that only works if you live inside the county or city of that school system, can't come from different counties and cities and commute. It's where you lay your head at night 3 days a week. Not where you get mail or say you live. Should be pretty open and closed, they either all live in the district or they don't and then it is simple. But, it wasn't the vhsl that seeked hayfield out. Somebody in your own house turned it in or a neighboring school. That's the only way vhsl ever catches wind. What will be interesting is what attorney's in other parts of the state do, could see some lawsuits from other parts field against Hatfield. Definitely getting my popcorn out, but more than like won't be 💩.
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Twas the night before playoffs..

Great thread title @BoKnowsSports. I am setting here reviewing all of my media data and credentials list. Has been raining here since 10 this morning. Going to be a damp field tomorrow in Dinwiddie. I hate to see our well manicured turf get destroyed, but it's worth it to have the home field atmosphere. Feel good about our chances against Powhatan, but respect the talent they possess.

Hayfield

I totally agree with you on LCA and have expressed the lack of backbone displayed by the participating schools. I am firmly against any type of open enrollment, non custodial, permanent transfers and anything else deemed illegal by our current VHSL guidelines.

Again, read the injunction. It's signed by one parent. No other co-signers. It references the law suit (two different things) as evidence. I was simply using the example of financial loss to prove the justification of an injunction which I don't believe is relevant in this case.

Please take minute and contemplate this. If the Court rules against the member schools then it will make the VHSL irrelevant. This will create a version of the wild West thus giving each child the ability to play anywhere they want without consequences. I ask you again, is this what you want?
It's not about what I want at this point. I'm just a spectator looking from the outside of mass corruption in football on every single level. From Rec to the NFL. Competitive disadvantages have been created since the inception of sports. There is no such thing as moral compass, true integrity, or liberation. Let's keep it 💯 Mr Navy. Either we as men go watch the sport and or not support it. Period. We tell ourselves to root for the under dog (who do it by the book) and hate the ones who find loopholes and "cheat" to win, when in reality we don't have a clue what's going on.

Hayfield

@Bucktown434, think of it this way. Everybody hates the NCAA, but it's a necessary evil. Without guidelines you simply have another pro league. What is sad is the people who advocate for the super conferences and super teams (high school and college) believe they are helping kids, but in reality they are creating fewer opportunities. Eventually, their will be no revenue for the outsiders thus eliminating scholarship opportunities and a chance to make it out. I have been fighting against this for the kids in Petersburg, Hopewell, Prince George and Dinwiddie for 35 years. You think I am going to stand idly by and watch their futures go down in smoke over some snake oil salesman. Hell to the No!

Hayfield

Please explain how would it wreck hs sports in more ways to come when Jerry Falwell literally did the same thing with his legal team against the VSHL 🤔? When they allowed a blatant private school join a public league, and not only join but dictate what Classification they would play in (3A) while bringing in a 4⭐️ high RB from New York. That my friend was the day the VHSL lost all it's accreditation and fair market value. So stop it. Until mass corruption is alleviated in totality, I don't want to hear it. And trust me. They wouldn't file that injunction is there wasn't tangible and validated supported evidence and documentation to win.
I totally agree with you on LCA and have expressed the lack of backbone displayed by the participating schools. I am firmly against any type of open enrollment, non custodial, permanent transfers and anything else deemed illegal by our current VHSL guidelines.

Again, read the injunction. It's signed by one parent. No other co-signers. It references the law suit (two different things) as evidence. I was simply using the example of financial loss to prove the justification of an injunction which I don't believe is relevant in this case.

Please take minute and contemplate this. If the Court rules against the member schools then it will make the VHSL irrelevant. This will create a version of the wild West thus giving each child the ability to play anywhere they want without consequences. I ask you again, is this what you want?

Hayfield

@Bucktown434, you assume a lot and are terribly wrong. I always rely on and argue legality/ policy. Please do your research. I responded solely based on the fact that a father had filed damages in excess of 1.3 million. In order to win that type of judgement he would have to prove Hayfield brought in that kind of money at the gate or his sons are losing contracted revenue. Let's just play the game and pretend the children are contracted through an NIL. The father would then have show how they lost 1.3 million. Thus the statement they must have big NIL deals in NOVA. What two high school athletes make 1.3 million? Not to mention ones who are under diverse financial hardship as noted in the injunction. It's one big contradiction.

Now I do care about hs sports and to be perfectly honest, if a court rules against the VHSL it will wreck hs sports in more ways than one. I guess that's what you and others with the same mindset desire. Please be careful what wish for. 80% of the athletic funding comes from the private donors you hate so much.
Please explain how would it wreck hs sports in more ways to come when Jerry Falwell literally did the same thing with his legal team against the VSHL 🤔? When they allowed a blatant private school join a public league, and not only join but dictate what Classification they would play in (3A) while bringing in a 4⭐️ high RB from New York. That my friend was the day the VHSL lost all it's accreditation and fair market value. So stop it. Until mass corruption is alleviated in totality, I don't want to hear it. And trust me. They wouldn't file that injunction is there wasn't tangible and validated supported evidence and documentation to win.
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