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Who are the top 12 at this pointMaybe I missed it some were along the line; but how come their only having 12 and not 16?
Maybe I missed it some were along the line; but how come their only having 12 and not 16?
The Roanoke Times had a short article concerning this, before the season began. This sentence from that article sums it up:
"Two years of long, costly road trips to play games that ended in blowouts were enough to convince the region's administrators to slice the bottom four teams off the postseason roster."
They might have added "games that ended in blowouts, which very few people were attending." Hopefully, I've successfully linked the article (first time doing this on a Smartphone); please read the coaches' comments therein.
Here are the first-round results for the top four seeds from the 4A North (now 4A West) playoffs from the past two seasons:
2014
(1)Salem 52, (16)Charlottesville 13
(2)Jefferson Forest 43, (15) Loudoun County 21
(3)Liberty 48, (14)Pulaski County 7
(4)GW 63, (13)Fauquier 21
2013
(1)Sherando 49, (16)Amherst Co. 15
(2)Salem 49, (15)Fauquier 27
(3)Eastern View 35, (14) E.C. Glass 32
(4)Courtland 15, (13)Pulaski Co. 0
That's an average margin of 27.25 points, and I suspect most of them could have been much worse. Only two of those games were closer than 22 points.
http://m.roanoke.com/sports/high_sc...270-61a2-5f96-b90f-17812e967ee3.html?mode=jqm
Here are the first-round results for the top four seeds from the 4A North (now 4A West) playoffs from the past two seasons:
2014
(1)Salem 52, (16)Charlottesville 13
(2)Jefferson Forest 43, (15) Loudoun County 21
(3)Liberty 48, (14)Pulaski County 7
(4)GW 63, (13)Fauquier 21
2013
(1)Sherando 49, (16)Amherst Co. 15
(2)Salem 49, (15)Fauquier 27
(3)Eastern View 35, (14) E.C. Glass 32
(4)Courtland 15, (13)Pulaski Co. 0
That's an average margin of 27.25 points, and I suspect most of them could have been much worse. Only two of those games were closer than 22 points.
http://m.roanoke.com/sports/high_sc...270-61a2-5f96-b90f-17812e967ee3.html?mode=jqm
Wonder what the average margin of victory was for the 5-12 seeds.
The average margin of victory was 21.75 points.
Woodgrove over Louisa 21-7
Courtland over Dominion 15-13
Eastern View over Fleming 42-19
Sherando over Wood 48-0
The average margin of victory was 21.75 points.
Woodgrove over Louisa 21-7
Courtland over Dominion 15-13
Eastern View over Fleming 42-19
Sherando over Wood 48-0
27-point margin....big problem
21-point margin...not a concern at all?????
Logic.exe has fatal error, please reboot
There's got to be a line drawn somewhere. Why not make a 24 or 32 team playoff then if the MOV being moved up doesn't really matter? I mean what's the difference between a bunch of 34 point blowouts compared to a bunch of 27 point ones? What about a bunch of 55 point blowouts for the top 4 seeds? It's all arbitrary.
So top 8 maybe?Oh, you misunderstand. I have no interest in moving the playoff participants UP.
So top 8 maybe?
If you look at it in the 2nd round you had the best games which they were decided by an average of 8 points. That would have been a great starting point to have just 8 teams. The first round games were pointless blowouts that I'm sure kids weren't even getting up for because most teams knew the outcome.
I see a lot talk about blow-outs in 1st round games, but blow-outs can happen in any round. I think a more accurate barometer to measure whether 16 teams are to many is to look back and and see how many 9-16 seeds won 1st round games. Probably more than people think.
I know it is a 4A board, but I was talking about overall 1A thru 6A. Didn't #1seed hidden valley get beat by a 16 seed last year? No one seems to take in account that maybe some low seeds may have had key injuries during the season, and may have lost a couple of games that if healthy, they may have won.
They were actually missing 2 key players from Salem on: Atkins (LB/FB) playing at W&M & Dermott (RB/S) playing at VMI. I think Atkins played 1Q before he went out with a knee problem I think.Salem won state in 2000 going 6-4 in the regular season, you don't need to tell me about the unlikely happening but the odds are really, really not in your favor to make that kind of a run.
Also if you're going to talk about injuries affecting teams you should be aware that HV lost their do-everything player late last year and their playoff ranking wasn't reflective of where they were as a team without that kid. I don't know about first round exit predictions but I know I had them out in the 2nd week and others I chatted with thought similarly. They were a vastly different team without him and would have lost several games without him. I believe he was lost in week 8 at the end of the PC game then they lost to Salem and beat a very average CS team the following week by one point before being upset in the playoffs. They were probably a 4-5 win team without him(they finished 8-3).
Actually , the Spartans were 11-3 for the season so they could not have been 6-4 during regular season ! They had a forfeit win against Cave Spring for using illegal player or players I believe ! Cave was still one school and AAA enrollment then because Hidden Valley had not opened and were around 2000 students I believe ! This forfeit win aided Salem in getting into playoffs but your point is still valid ! When Salem entered the playoffs they were relatively healthy and a very good defense that was not healthy , a division one kicker and punter and a 6'2" 281 pound fullback we were able to win the state , getting by the more talented squad of Northside that year in the playoffs 10-6 after losing to them during the regular season !
And people constantly argue that one or two special players don't make a major difference to a team. IMO, no one wins the Championship without one.Salem won state in 2000 going 6-4 in the regular season, you don't need to tell me about the unlikely happening but the odds are really, really not in your favor to make that kind of a run.
Also if you're going to talk about injuries affecting teams you should be aware that HV lost their do-everything player late last year and their playoff ranking wasn't reflective of where they were as a team without that kid. I don't know about first round exit predictions but I know I had them out in the 2nd week and others I chatted with thought similarly. They were a vastly different team without him and would have lost several games without him. I believe he was lost in week 8 at the end of the PC game then they lost to Salem and beat a very average CS team the following week by one point before being upset in the playoffs. They were probably a 4-5 win team without him(they finished 8-3).