Class 4 Title Game - Phoebus vs Varina

[Kenneth Harris]

The score for Dinwiddie isn’t indicative of the game. Their 4 star playmaker scored on 3 bang bang plays and then they scored a late TD when the game was out of hand. Yeah they scored 27 points but besides when Dinwiddie was actually down 28-21, there was never a doubt that Varina was the more complete team. Varina has dominated in the playoffs against three really good teams (Huguenot, Dinwiddie and Tusky). As great as Phoebus is, they have not seen much competition all year (Highland Springs and Warwick were light years better than any other team they’ve played). I think that’ll make some difference in Saturday’s outcome.

Of course I was being a bit snarky but I was also noting that there is a bit of a difference between a shutout and allowing points to be scored. The Hanover Hawks? Come on bro. They are no stronger than the traditional weak teams from the PD. Yes, I agree with you, things are a bit different in the last game of the season and for the second time Phantom fans have to watch as every team wants to be the one to end our team's 48 game winning streak. It is something that makes the game extra special isn't it?

 

[BoKnowsSports]

 

[BoKnowsSports]

Think a lot of people will f around and find out about Varina on Saturday night. Them kids are different and they’re locked in.. SCARY SIGHT.

 

[Kenneth Harris]

Think a lot of people will f around and find out about Varina on Saturday night. Them kids are different and they’re locked in.. SCARY SIGHT.

If you are talking about this football season I think the majority of football fans can be forgiven but Virginia High School football has not been defined by anything going on at Varina especially needing two overtimes to lose to Indian River. I juat don't believe there is anything to find out that is not already known. You know what I mean?

The standards of excellence were set years ago, decades ago, by Salem, Phoebus, Hampton, Oscar Smith, Westfield, Stone Bridge and even Dinwiddie as they have produced one of the greatest team to win a title. There are even more schools to name long before you get to Varina with some already having won multiple state titles. You know for yourself that other versions of Phoebus have faced much better teams in the finals than the 2024 Varina Blue Devils. The Blue Devils have indeed earned the right to play in the championship but the outcome will be an extremely new line in a very, very old history book in the list of great Va high school teams. Let's not get carried away. Salem was a better team last year than Varina is this year.

 

[mike salem]

Having seen Varina a couple of weeks ago I think they have what it takes to beat Phoebus, BUT they will have to be composed and focused. It will take a near flawless performance. No turnovers- don't even put the ball on the turf, very few penalties- no delays, no false starts, no off sides, no PI, and absolutely no PF or unsportsmanlike penalties. Basically don't beat yourself! I haven't seen Phoebus in a year, but I've seen a near flawless performance from them. If Varina can match that, then we'll see one hell of a ball game, like last year. I look forward to it! Good luck to both teams!

 

[CrushBlock]

Varina 35
Phoebus 21.
Crush out

 

[GoBlue2109]

If you are talking about this football season I think the majority of football fans can be forgiven but Virginia High School football has not been defined by anything going on at Varina especially needing two overtimes to lose to Indian River. I juat don't believe there is anything to find out that is not already known. You know what I mean?

The standards of excellence were set years ago, decades ago, by Salem, Phoebus, Hampton, Oscar Smith, Westfield, Stone Bridge and even Dinwiddie as they have produced one of the greatest team to win a title. There are even more schools to name long before you get to Varina with some already having won multiple state titles. You know for yourself that other versions of Phoebus have faced much better teams in the finals than the 2024 Varina Blue Devils. The Blue Devils have indeed earned the right to play in the championship but the outcome will be an extremely new line in a very, very old history book in the list of great Va high school teams. Let's not get carried away. Salem was a better team last year than Varina is this year.

I don't want to get into comparisons too much because it leads us to nowhere when we got this amazing game coming up. But brother, at minimum this years Varina team is equal to last years Salem team. The defense is definitely better in my opinion. But again that means nothing for this Saturday at 5p.m.

 

[acoles]

Shutout? Shutdown? But not the 5-5 Hanover Hawks. And not Dinwiddie. Unless 14, 27 and 0 are all the same numbers.

WOW please please somebody explain it to him

 

[acoles]

Think a lot of people will f around and find out about Varina on Saturday night. Them kids are different and they’re locked in.. SCARY SIGHT.

 

[acoles]

You are absolutely correct they are focus and locked and loaded and I can see it in their eyes. It is kind of scary.

 

[acoles]

I got the feeling he was holding the ball too long on purpose. Sherando were not much of a threat to Phoebus and presented little to no competition. At one point it look like Phoebus was doing a walk through practice.

 

[acoles]

Shutout? Shutdown? But not the 5-5 Hanover Hawks. And not Dinwiddie. Unless 14, 27 and 0 are all the same numbers.

 

[acoles]

The law of average the winning streak will end one day why not Saturday!!!!!!

 

[Phoebus Fan]

Varina 35
Phoebus 21.
Crush out

🤣🤣🤣

2 days away.

 

[Phoebus Fan]

I don't want to get into comparisons too much because it leads us to nowhere when we got this amazing game coming up. But brother, at minimum this years Varina team is equal to last years Salem team. The defense is definitely better in my opinion. But again that means nothing for this Saturday at 5p.m.

What does them being equal to Salem last year mean? Just curious.

 

[Phoebus Fan]

Think a lot of people will f around and find out about Varina on Saturday night. Them kids are different and they’re locked in.. SCARY SIGHT.

Yesssir I love it.

 

[Kenneth Harris]

The law of average the winning streak will end one day why not Saturday!!!!!!

Hello and I hope you enjoy the games on Saturday. Last year there was some expectation that a team that was held in check by the Churchland Truckers for 1 half was going to walk into Darling Stadium and shutdown Phoebus. Hampton and Phoebus have had to go through long winning streaks ending. Both long games won in a row and attempts to win 5 straight championships came to an end. You are right. One day the winning streak has to end. Both of those past teams were phenomenal in that they accomplished such a thing. The question the supporters of the 2024 Varina are not answering (as if I did not ask it) is why do you believe that the 2x D3 and defending D4 champ is now a worse team than the 2024 Indian River Braves? This is an analysis I want to read.

 

[Phoebus Fan]

If you are talking about this football season I think the majority of football fans can be forgiven but Virginia High School football has not been defined by anything going on at Varina especially needing two overtimes to lose to Indian River. I juat don't believe there is anything to find out that is not already known. You know what I mean?

The standards of excellence were set years ago, decades ago, by Salem, Phoebus, Hampton, Oscar Smith, Westfield, Stone Bridge and even Dinwiddie as they have produced one of the greatest team to win a title. There are even more schools to name long before you get to Varina with some already having won multiple state titles. You know for yourself that other versions of Phoebus have faced much better teams in the finals than the 2024 Varina Blue Devils. The Blue Devils have indeed earned the right to play in the championship but the outcome will be an extremely new line in a very, very old history book in the list of great Va high school teams. Let's not get carried away. Salem was a better team last year than Varina is this year.

Gotta scratch that IR game out your head big dog. Varina wasn’t 100% that game and it was months ago. Just like Phoebus, Varina has gotten a lot better as season progressed and are playing their best ball right now. I don’t even think Phoebus coaches watched that game.

 

[Phoebus Fan]

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95% of the state is rooting for Varina just a FYI lol

 

[GoBlue2109]

What does them being equal to Salem last year mean? Just curious.

I said it means nothing. It's right there in the post. I was responding to KHarris saying last year's Salem is better than this year's Varina.

 

[Phoebus Fan]

I said it means nothing. It's right there in the post. I was responding to KHarris saying last year's Salem is better than this year's Varina.

Oh i half read his post after he brought up Indian River

 

[Kenneth Harris]

Gotta scratch that IR game out your head big dog. Varina wasn’t 100% that game and it was months ago. Just like Phoebus, Varina has gotten a lot better as season progressed and are playing their best ball right now. I don’t even think Phoebus coaches watched that game.

One day you are gonna read something that I wrote and just say, "You know. You are right." Try to remember who predicted, 23 years ago as of now, what is happening with Phoebus. That was not you. That was me. The sad thing with many people on this site is that they cannot stand for someone or anyone to be right. Animosity rules the day. And apologies do not exist. It happened after Phoebus won the 01 &02 titles. When Phoebus beat Stone Bridge in '08. After Salem beat Lake Taylor in '15. People are offended by the facts as they exist. But season anomalies matter. The same as Phoebus' bad half against Bethel. That poor performance matters in that it cannot be repeated. The flags cannot be repeated in this game against Varina.

But Phoebus would need to be running at 30% and failing to lose to Indian River in 1 overtime let alone double overtime. I only bring up facts from season games to strike up the conversation. But you cannot tell me that season stats and performances don't matter. They matter until the last second runs off the clock. Ask Dinwiddie. Or North Stafford. Or Salem. Or Hanover. Or Stone Bridge.

 

[Phoebus Fan]

One day you are gonna read something that I wrote and just say, "You know. You are right." Try to remember who predicted, 23 years ago as of now, what is happening with Phoebus. That was not you. That was me. The sad thing with many people on this site is that they cannot stand for someone or anyone to be right. Animosity rules the day. And apologies do not exist. It happened after Phoebus won the 01 &02 titles. When Phoebus beat Stone Bridge in '08. After Salem beat Lake Taylor in '15. People are offended by the facts as they exist. But season anomalies matter. The same as Phoebus' bad half against Bethel. That poor performance matters in that it cannot be repeated. The flags cannot be repeated in this game against Varina.

But Phoebus would need to be running at 30% and failing to lose to Indian River in 1 overtime let alone double overtime. I only bring up facts from season games to strike up the conversation. But you cannot tell me that season stats and performances don't matter. They matter until the last second runs off the clock. Ask Dinwiddie. Or North Stafford. Or Salem. Or Hanover. Or Stone Bridge.

PM me your weed man’s number please.

 

[CrushBlock]

@Kenneth Harris

@Phoebus Fan

Yall are too funny. If I remember last years championship board, Kenneth thought Salem was going to give Phoebus a hell of a game, while Phoebus fan thought Salem could not match up against them.

Now you’re flip flopped, Phoebus fan is putting respect on varina as a worthy adversary and Kenneth thinks the opponent can’t match up.

Get on the same page for once!

I obviously picked Varina to win this one, but it’s a shot in the dark. Phoebus could win by 21+ and that wouldn’t be surprising either.

 

[Phoebus Fan]

@Kenneth Harris

@Phoebus Fan

Yall are too funny. If I remember last years championship board, Kenneth thought Salem was going to give Phoebus a hell of a game, while Phoebus fan thought Salem could not match up against them.

Now you’re flip flopped, Phoebus fan is putting respect on varina as a worthy adversary and Kenneth thinks the opponent can’t match up.

Get on the same page for once!

I obviously picked Varina to win this one, but it’s a shot in the dark. Phoebus could win by 21+ and that wouldn’t be surprising either.

I’ve been told by the program to STFU up here. But me and him are on the same page just different paragraphs

 

[MrSalem1000]

This Phoebus/Varina game will be a great game. I’m excited to see it in person. Also looking forward to the LCA/Kettle Run game. I think Kettle Run has a legit shot to beat LCA. Two great games on the horizon. Gonna be a great day on Saturday in Lynchburg

 

[MrSalem1000]

I watched a video not long ago about how the LCA head coach has cancer. The fact that he has cancer and is still going out there every day and spending time with those kids. That’s special.

 

[shsspartan/taknight]

3 of the top 5 schools in the state according to on3 playing in Lynchburg Saturday, only game they have close is this one. They got Phoebus 24-22 for the prediction, closest game from D3 and up. 1-5 they got Maury, Oscar Smith, Phoebus, Varina and LCA….. can’t figure out how to send a screenshot so here’s the link, just click on the schools for predictions. Idk what cal preps hate on Phoebus is…. https://www.on3.com/high-school/rankings/football/virginia/

 

[1MoreHokie]

3 of the top 5 schools in the state according to on3 playing in Lynchburg Saturday, only game they have close is this one. They got Phoebus 24-22 for the prediction, closest game from D3 and up. 1-5 they got Maury, Oscar Smith, Phoebus, Varina and LCA….. can’t figure out how to send a screenshot so here’s the link, just click on the schools for predictions. Idk what cal preps hate on Phoebus is…. https://www.on3.com/high-school/rankings/football/virginia/

It doesn't hate Phoebus, their schedule is just bad when you start talking about nationally rated teams. It has Phoebus rated highly, just 1.5 points behind Varina but at some point that margin can mean a large gap in ranking. Phoebus' opponents have combined to go 77-75, Varina's have gone 96-52. Both share their best win as taking down HSHS but beyond that it likes Varina beating Dinwiddie, Huguenot, and Tuscarora over Phoebus beating Warwick and Sherando.

That formula is much more predicated on who you play than how you do, at least to a point. They reward teams for challenging themselves (by force or by choice). Some of their top 25 doesn't play but 10-12 games sometimes but half their schedule might literally be part of the top 10-15 teams in the country and it's not a leap to think such a team could handle most everyone below them.

 

[Phoebus Fan]

Two very unique practices for Phoebus before they leave for Lynchburg. Time to seal the deal on this business trip Saturday. Going to be an emotional day seeing this group of kids play for the last time together.

 

[fattyhawk2013]

The score for Dinwiddie isn’t indicative of the game. Their 4 star playmaker scored on 3 bang bang plays and then they scored a late TD when the game was out of hand. Yeah they scored 27 points but besides when Dinwiddie was actually down 28-21, there was never a doubt that Varina was the more complete team. Varina has dominated in the playoffs against three really good teams (Huguenot, Dinwiddie and Tusky). As great as Phoebus is, they have not seen much competition all year (Highland Springs and Warwick were light years better than any other team they’ve played). I think that’ll make some difference in Saturday’s outcome.

Phoebus is Phoebus. These players have been together for three to four years. They hv beat great teams and won 49 in a row. 3 straight chips. Including beating up a King George team that beat Varina lastyear. They know how to win. On Saturday, that experience along with 6 returning all state players will make some difference. Varina is a very good team but they don't present anything that Phoebus hasnt seen. Again, Phoebus is a veteran team. They live for big games like this. The same team (Highland Springs) that Varina beat 28-19, Phoebus defense allowed 7 points and 3 first downs. It's always been one game at a time. Varina is a worthy opponent. On Saturday, Phoebus' experience will show up. I can't wait for this game. It's another opportunity for Phoebus to show who they are.

 

[Phoebus Fan]

3 of the top 5 schools in the state according to on3 playing in Lynchburg Saturday, only game they have close is this one. They got Phoebus 24-22 for the prediction, closest game from D3 and up. 1-5 they got Maury, Oscar Smith, Phoebus, Varina and LCA….. can’t figure out how to send a screenshot so here’s the link, just click on the schools for predictions. Idk what cal preps hate on Phoebus is…. https://www.on3.com/high-school/rankings/football/virginia/

These polls are hilarious.

 

[fattyhawk2013]

Two very unique practices for Phoebus before they leave for Lynchburg. Time to seal the deal on this business trip Saturday. Going to be an emotional day seeing this group of kids play for the last time together.

Absolutely. Those kids are Phenominal. Experience will show up in this game. Another opportunity to show who they are.

 

[Phoebus Fan]

Absolutely. Those kids are Phenominal. Experience will show up in this game. Another opportunity to show who they are.

Yeah man i don’t think people realize how experienced Phoebus really is.

 

[PHSBlue&Gold]

I'm not going to come on here with no outlandish, unrealistic prediction. I expect this to be a well played defensive gem. Turnovers, penalties, and discipline is going to be the deciding factors. I have Phoebus winning 24-14.

 

[fattyhawk2013]

Varina 35
Phoebus 21.
Crush out

You are smoking Crack if you think Varina is scoring 35 points on Phoebus...lol Varina couldn't score 35 on Highland Springs. Put the pipe down.

 

[fattyhawk2013]

I'm not going to come on here with no outlandish, unrealistic prediction. I expect this to be a well played defensive gem. Turnovers, penalties, and discipline is going to be the deciding factors. I have Phoebus winning 24-14.

Someone posted Varina 35 - Phoebus 21. Lol.

 

[fattyhawk2013]

I just saw the article in the Richmond Times News - Everyone Doubted Us. My question to Varina fans.

How can you doubt a senior lead team with 6 all state players - 3 chips, that last lost as freshman in 2021 before the playoffs to 6A State Champ Oscar Smith (757)???

I keep hearing Phoebus ain't played nobody. According to Varina fans- they have it all. On saturday, Phoebus will play somebody great. Let's see what happens...

 

[fattyhawk2013]

I just saw the article in the Richmond Times News - Everyone Doubted Us. My question to Varina fans.

How can you doubt a senior lead team with 6 all state players - 3 chips, that last lost as freshman in 2021 before the playoffs to 6A State Champ Oscar Smith (757)???

I keep hearing Phoebus ain't played nobody. According to Varina fans- they have it all. On saturday, Phoebus will play somebody great. Let's see what happens

 

[fattyhawk2013]

I'm not going to come on here with no outlandish, unrealistic prediction. I expect this to be a well played defensive gem. Turnovers, penalties, and discipline is going to be the deciding factors. I have Phoebus winning