Giles @ Glenvar
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I was just going by what the VHSL has. If you're under 400, you should be a A school, not AA.
I have no dog in this argument... but I see it year after year after year with SOME Giles fans and I have to question: Have you guys ever lost a game outright? I mean, it's always one of two things that contributes to a Giles loss..at least according to the boards: either A) "They came out flat" or B) The Refs. Glenvar won 33-0 last year in the playoffs and it was a combo of "being flat and poor officiating"... How about showing the teams that beat you a little respect? They must be pretty darn good to beat a team of Giles caliber.
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Discussing this game with you for earlier in the week Richland's is a really athletic team. Never saw as many skill players on one team yet. O-line not great but dang everything else makes up for it. Would hate to see the team you lose to if you do. Wish you guys the best. Gonna be hard to handle.
The link above is not the most current. It still lists Haysi and Clintwood. John Champe's listed enrollment is half of what it currently is, as an additional reference point. My figures came from VHSL's ADM revision of 6/24/14. The point is, Grayson's enrollment is much closer to 600.
As for the grade levels, it should be 9-12, not 10-12. I was mistaken. I don't know how they handle the numbers for high schools that don't have 9th grade.
As for the grade levels, it should be 9-12, not 10-12. I was mistaken. I don't know how they handle the numbers for high schools that don't have 9th grade.
I had never thought of it before but that would definitely be a way for a school to play down assuming they had elementary school being K-9 and high school 10-12.
I'm sure VHSL counts numbers for 9-12 though. Just an interesting thought was all
I'm sure VHSL counts numbers for 9-12 though. Just an interesting thought was all
School board budget meetings being held at Gchs last year sited enrollment numbers dropping which included a decrease in state allocated funds. That decrease was a loss of over $1 million in funding for Grayson. That's why they cut jobs and combined duties of employees. They also cut several classes out of their curriculum. One being the associate degree program. I don't know how the stat allocates monies for each student but I personally think $1 million is alot of money to lose.
That's a big hit for most school divisions. I'm sorry to hear that programs, and jobs, are being cut.
Richlands enrollment is not 800.......I have no idea where you got that number, but we are in the 650 range and dropping. We haven't been at 800 since we were a D4 school.
The last time we were close to 800 was in 2009 when we were at 791, but it has dropped a lot since then .
The last time we were close to 800 was in 2009 when we were at 791, but it has dropped a lot since then .
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The above link lists it at 704. I just looked at another link from 2014 at 790 I think. But that's two different sources. As for the from the state we had a secretary to embezzle around $40k from various sports and PTO accounts. Monies raised by students and parents. We have to raise ALL the money to feed the boys before games and had to raise a third of the funds to pay for our new field. That was to the tune of $20k we had to raise.
Last year's playoff game...was kinda crazy...just beat them handily few weeks before...think it was looking ahead...them getting players back...and getting snake bit at the 17 second mark...sometimes I have seen teams come out flat and not want it...it happens...sometimes you get manhandled...Powell Valley did that to us one year...and i have seen some bad calls lose the game...last two games giles has lost came from glenvar...they definitely won last year...not as bad as the scoreboard showed but a good win...this year was a bit touchy to say the least...neither team dominated for sure...Giles now gets a chance to play spoiler...guess we will see next Friday
Maybe we don't have a lot of D1 college recruits, but we sure have beaten quite a few teams over the years that did have some. There have probably been 50 games or more in the last 30 years in which we could of had backs cracking 500 yds in a game. Ever heard of sportsmanship?
I haven't read every post in this thread, just enough to get the gist. And it's the same old, same old.
First, full disclosure. I'm a long-time Andrew Lewis/Salem fan, Salem grad. Also a Glenvar fan, as they're right here beside us, and I used to be familiar with their kids, since my mother taught at Glenvar Elem. for 25 years. I tried to go to as many Glenvar games as I could (including the only game I've seen at Giles) during the tenures of coaches Hooker and Magenbauer, but it's probably been close to fifteen years since I attended a Glenvar game. I still follow 2A football around this area through the media, and this site, of course.
My question is: what the heck is with the Giles fans and all the excuses?! The refs, the weather, the field. Hasn't Glenvar, the last couple of years, had at least as much speed and athleticism as Giles? Wouldn't it behoove the Highlanders to play on a dry field, too? Wasn't last year's playoff game AT Giles? Since it was, wouldn't that make the Giles people responsible for the condition of the field? The score was 35-0. So, that's all due to the field? Giles kicked Glenvars' butts up, down, and sideways for 20 years, in all kinds of rain, wind, mud, probably snow flurries at one point. None of that ever seemed to matter. Yet now, Giles requires absolutely optimal conditions to be able to beat Glenvar?
As far as officials' calls, that's completely subjective, and you can bat that back and forth til doomsday. Try and find one school in the VHSL whose supporters don't think they've been massively hosed at some point.
This is all eerily similar to when Salem started beating Pulaski Co. consistently in the mid-'80's. The Cougar faithful just absolutely could not handle it, and every excuse in the book was offered. God, I'm glad the internet (and particularly this site) didn't exist back then. Pulaski even dropped Salem for two years, as the two were in different districts once Salem dropped to AA.
Anyway - come on, guys. Stop with the excuses. You sound really lame, and the Giles football teams with which I've been familiar over the decades are definitely not lame. Your football program - one of the best in the state, regardless of classification - is worthy of a higher standard from its supporters.
First, full disclosure. I'm a long-time Andrew Lewis/Salem fan, Salem grad. Also a Glenvar fan, as they're right here beside us, and I used to be familiar with their kids, since my mother taught at Glenvar Elem. for 25 years. I tried to go to as many Glenvar games as I could (including the only game I've seen at Giles) during the tenures of coaches Hooker and Magenbauer, but it's probably been close to fifteen years since I attended a Glenvar game. I still follow 2A football around this area through the media, and this site, of course.
My question is: what the heck is with the Giles fans and all the excuses?! The refs, the weather, the field. Hasn't Glenvar, the last couple of years, had at least as much speed and athleticism as Giles? Wouldn't it behoove the Highlanders to play on a dry field, too? Wasn't last year's playoff game AT Giles? Since it was, wouldn't that make the Giles people responsible for the condition of the field? The score was 35-0. So, that's all due to the field? Giles kicked Glenvars' butts up, down, and sideways for 20 years, in all kinds of rain, wind, mud, probably snow flurries at one point. None of that ever seemed to matter. Yet now, Giles requires absolutely optimal conditions to be able to beat Glenvar?
As far as officials' calls, that's completely subjective, and you can bat that back and forth til doomsday. Try and find one school in the VHSL whose supporters don't think they've been massively hosed at some point.
This is all eerily similar to when Salem started beating Pulaski Co. consistently in the mid-'80's. The Cougar faithful just absolutely could not handle it, and every excuse in the book was offered. God, I'm glad the internet (and particularly this site) didn't exist back then. Pulaski even dropped Salem for two years, as the two were in different districts once Salem dropped to AA.
Anyway - come on, guys. Stop with the excuses. You sound really lame, and the Giles football teams with which I've been familiar over the decades are definitely not lame. Your football program - one of the best in the state, regardless of classification - is worthy of a higher standard from its supporters.
recall you throwing out some excuses why your team lost to a pretty bad Bath Co. team. look in the mirror
And here, I'll show you the difference between you jokers and myself: I said the Blues just are not that good. That's not an excuse, thats a fact. I've said that all season. That's not trying to take anything away from the other team for beating us.
Now you Giles fans on the other hand, you attempt to make it sound like you're really good and the other team just happened to get "lucky" and beat you on a day when you were "flat". And if it happens to be a close game loss, well the refs are an easy scapegoat. Once again, you try to take away from what the other team accomplished by acting like you're the better team who just happened to have a bad day.
Oh and I dont. I've been to a few Giles game through the years and they're a great fan base. Very passionate.
Just finished reading the thread, so a couple of misc. thoughts.
It's been several years ago, that Grayson was the 2nd largest 2A school in the region. Could have changed or my memory could be off. (I did go to Giles!).
For several seasons I have thought Giles gets shut down more on offense the more they progress in the playoffs. IMO it takes a good defense from them to give them a better shot. And having some sembelance (bad spelling, again blame it on Giles!) of a passing game.
Most of the Glenvar/Giles comments are in good taste and part of the sparring. But it hasn't even been 24 hours and a bit of friction is building.
I don't know who will win. One I thing I don't expect is a close game. One or the other is going to knock the crap out of the loser. Good luck to both and hopefully there is a well played game by both.
It's been several years ago, that Grayson was the 2nd largest 2A school in the region. Could have changed or my memory could be off. (I did go to Giles!).
For several seasons I have thought Giles gets shut down more on offense the more they progress in the playoffs. IMO it takes a good defense from them to give them a better shot. And having some sembelance (bad spelling, again blame it on Giles!) of a passing game.
Most of the Glenvar/Giles comments are in good taste and part of the sparring. But it hasn't even been 24 hours and a bit of friction is building.
I don't know who will win. One I thing I don't expect is a close game. One or the other is going to knock the crap out of the loser. Good luck to both and hopefully there is a well played game by both.
Show me one post on this board where any Giles follower says Glenvar does not have a really good football team. I'll wait. you might have to go back a few years.
saying a team got lucky isn't saying they are not a good football team. I've seen a lot of great teams that needed a little luck now and then. and post 22 says no such thing
Maybe I am dumb but stupid is as stupid does....I have been around a lot of ADs minute man. Sure..it is a secondary consideration and nice if it works out. The primary considerations are always getting every team you want to play in the schedule and having 5 home and 5 away games. The bye week just "appears" somewhere in the 11 weeks schedule after everything is verified. You are saying it is the primary consideration of all these teams Giles plays. Momma says scheduling hs football games is like a box of chocolates and you never know what bye week your gonna get.
If you want to believe 5 out of 10 teams you play have a bye week the week before you play them is totally coincidental, then that's up to you.
Some of you Giles fans can't accept losing. The excuses you have when you lose is so COMICAL. I bet you were cursing at Mother Nature for the field being too sloppy. You do realize both teams play in the same conditions. Stop with the excuses!!
As for this week's game. Glenvar will make a statement and win 28-7. The Defense is way too good. What will Giles do when you can't run or throw. You had difficulty stopping #2 last game. What will you do with #7. No one on Giles can cover him 1 on 1. I expect him to have a good game. He had 4 interceptions against VA High, but 1 was called back. I expect #6, #3, #2 to have a good game. We all know the game is won upfront. I believe Glenvar D-Line and O-Line will wear Giles down.
Glenvar has surrendered only 4 rushing touchdowns the entire year.. 2 Galax (1st Game) 1 Giles (4th and Goal), and 1 (4th and Goal) against Radford. Giles (single wing) has only scored 1 rushing touchdown in the last 8 quarters. Just can't see how this will change.
Mannschild...... I am Bruin fan. You seem like a total prick. Here is the deal as I see it. Giles fans don't like to lose. Two reasons. 1. They are not use to it. 2. Losing sucks. You should know. What is the all time record between the two schools. I apologize to the good decent Glenvar fans. This child seems to need to grow up and show some class. Now a few Giles peeps just ignore him.
Singlewinger asked for my input on the game. I gave him my opinion. You should look in the mirror. Name calling is a sign of immaturity.
I sure am glad you guys are giving us some entertainment!
Mannschild I'll give you some advice. I was exactly like you on this forum when Wilson Memorial finally got some success against Riverheads. Blame it on my age, but when I look back at my posts I see how sometimes they weren't mature at all.
I think your problem (as it was mine too) was I didn't respect my rival schools program. Do I strongly dislike the team from Greenville? Dear lord yes but I learned you can't help but respect the success. High school football for the most part runs in cycles, but through those cycles some teams are always consistent. (Giles and unfortunately Riverheads being two of them.)
While it's always fun to be able to take shots at them, your beloved Highlanders have beaten Giles twice in their entire history. Once you learn to respect the program you might even find that you can have some pretty good football talks with their posters.
With all that said I still hope they lose Friday
They being RHS. Never cheer for your sworn enemy
Mannschild I'll give you some advice. I was exactly like you on this forum when Wilson Memorial finally got some success against Riverheads. Blame it on my age, but when I look back at my posts I see how sometimes they weren't mature at all.
I think your problem (as it was mine too) was I didn't respect my rival schools program. Do I strongly dislike the team from Greenville? Dear lord yes but I learned you can't help but respect the success. High school football for the most part runs in cycles, but through those cycles some teams are always consistent. (Giles and unfortunately Riverheads being two of them.)
While it's always fun to be able to take shots at them, your beloved Highlanders have beaten Giles twice in their entire history. Once you learn to respect the program you might even find that you can have some pretty good football talks with their posters.
With all that said I still hope they lose Friday
They being RHS. Never cheer for your sworn enemy
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It's my opinion 28-7 Glenvar . Everybody has one, if you can't handle my opinion, I don't know what to tell you.
Speaking of can't accept losing please explain why your daughter played volleyball at East Mont and your son transferred to Glenvar???????????
bburgfan, I happen to be a relative of the family. I'm sure the personal lives of these two kids are none of your business.
Careful guys, he don't like when gang up on him. He will probably have to call #7 for help. They seem to be close. If Glenvar scores 28 on Giles it will be through the air on complete pass breakdowns from Giles secondary. Let's face it. The last three games Giles and Glenvar have played the Bus or Manns have not hurt Giles at all and I restate AT ALL. Like above poster stated Glenvar is where they are because of the defense, their offense is average. I guess if u don't like those facts u can hit the ignore button. Lol
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