Can't find an ACC offer for Tyler Maye anywhere. Did have Nebraska and Kansas State though. Fact check before typing. Also, the main reason he couldn't get on the court was more about Johnny Williams' 2.5:1 Assist to turnover ratio and experience.
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Can't find an ACC offer for Tyler Maye anywhere. Did have Nebraska and Kansas State though. Fact check before typing. Also, the main reason he couldn't get on the court was more about Johnny Williams' 2.5:1 Assist to turnover ratio and experience.
LOL!! I’m a VCU student and fan and went to every game until the end.. Johnny Williams was unbearable. Johnny Williams was a bottom tier PG in the A10. Our team was probably the most talented we’ve had since 2014 but we had no PG. A lot of times Coach wanted to pull Johnny because he was playing so bad, just had to keep him in because Maye wasn’t ready for that level. Kid averaged 40 in high school..He did have a look from Pittsburgh and interest from NC State along with Kris Lane (5th year player) who was actually offered by Wake and Pitt. Maye: Dayton, Temple, Kansas State, Nebraska, ECU, UNC Charlotte, and those two ACC schools would’ve given him their last scholly had he had been interested to go there. State was loaded with upperclassmen and picked up Lavar Batts Jr. Maye saw VCU as a place he’d play right away. Didn’t happen like that. At the end of the day, you can try to insult me “fact check before you post” but I know that you mountain boys just trying to take my creditabiliy because I have another opinion about your savior. Whatever I say, no emotional decision is envolved like some of you other posters. I see a lot of college games. Seen some great PGs in my 4 years here at VCU come through Siegel Center for my team and opposing teams.
Funny. No emotional connection here either. Born and raised in Richmond. VCU alum. Williams play was not what turned VCU's season into a disappointment. It was mainly the inconsistency of Vann and Jenkins as wing scorers in addition to the roster turnover. Also, a look and interest are far from a scholarship offer and you know that. Khris Lane (wasn't good enough for the A-10 level) was sought after by all the programs that needed players because of a major exit (Collins at Wake, everyone at NC State lol) and that was the same with Simms. They gotta fill their rosters somehow. VCU did not have the talent this year overall from the freshman to the junior college pick ups. It happens when you have the coaching changes they have. Really was a shame because Tillman have a fantastic year.
But anyway man just let McClung be the best player this year and leave it at that. Anyone who says otherwise is hating or doesn't know basketball.
As far as Mac is concerned..No hate here. We'll see soon..After seeing him in person, I'm just not on the hype train..Man, you really don't think we didn't have the talent of Bri and Tre's senior year? Johnny Williams (who was more suitable to be the 6th man; NOT A STARTING PG that's gonna get you to the dance), Tillman, DJ, Vann, Mobley, Simms (very capable defender; much better scorer than J-Burg; not as tough)..and Tyler Maye who like we both know AVG'd 40 at Farmville Central..Plus Santos Silva and Malik Crowfield. We were deep. Maye, who I believe should've been thrown into the fire like JeQuan Lewis, looked over his shoulder all year. Could tell Johnny was in his ear. As you can see, I'm not a Johnny fan or Vann fan or Mike Rhoades fan. We dropped the ball when we didn't hire Kevin Keatts when Shaka left. I believe that VCU will drop...Not as bad as Mason, but we won't be the same VCU we're used to seeing.
@DanvilleSportsHead honest question- you watched the state championship game and weren’t impressed with what Mac did vs. Lee? I’m talking about that game not what he may or may not do in college
As far as points are concerned..I thought that he, like all "stars", got all the calls. Got a lot of points from the FT line. Initiated a lot of contact on offense and just because he's Mac McClung, the defense was called for the foul. I saw Wendell Moore, a highly recruited wing in NC, get the same treatment Saturday... I also think the other antics he pull will put a target on his back. You can see it on the Ball is Life games on YouTube. He's playing teams that are in the same the same "terrible" conversation as Carroll County and some of the winless Patrick County teams. I made the thread about him being the best ever out of VA because all I seen was highlights. He's a capable ballplayer. Never ever questioned his talent..
DSH watch the videos he got hacked every time down and about half were called. It just seems there something else you don't like about Mac? I just got the "inside scoop" about you.
First and foremost, I know what you’re hinting at and you’re ignorant. I’ll end your ignorant remark before it starts a trickle effect. No race mentioned in this whole thread and won’t be mentioned now.. Shame on you. Keep that mess in the comment section of YouTube or Facebook.
DSH Absolutely wrong again . Honestly, I just wish you would be right at least once on this board. I have no idea who you are or anything about you. Race never entered my mind! how would I know anything about you? shame on you! Why would you instantly go there? What do you know about me?
You do have something you don't like about Mac. You said that not me. And seems like "your scoop" is it. Just wanted you to see how stupid it sounds to say you have the " scoop on a kid."
Wow you got defensive when someone had the scoop on you. But you can say you have the scoop on a kid we should just handle that. Let us think bad things about a kid. Wow start calling people names. You don't crack me up anymore. Interesting how your mind wonders to something that was not meant. I guess it is ok that you let peoples mind wonder about Kid. I hope they don't have the wrong impressions about Mac like you got!
Mecklenburg is not that good either. Will you say anything on this board?
You do have something you don't like about Mac. You said that not me. And seems like "your scoop" is it. Just wanted you to see how stupid it sounds to say you have the " scoop on a kid."
Wow you got defensive when someone had the scoop on you. But you can say you have the scoop on a kid we should just handle that. Let us think bad things about a kid. Wow start calling people names. You don't crack me up anymore. Interesting how your mind wonders to something that was not meant. I guess it is ok that you let peoples mind wonder about Kid. I hope they don't have the wrong impressions about Mac like you got!
Mecklenburg is not that good either. Will you say anything on this board?
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To everyone in this argument,relax its just a ballgame.
Maybe the above mentioned area codes should just all jump to a lower college division. Gate City, if you care to educate yourself, played against some of the top teams in NC, KY, and TN also. Mac always rose to the occasion. And to state that Mac played every minute in every game is, well, a blatant lie. So, stop acting like you have some "inside info" as you state and throwing out false info please....
You all got your fruit of the loom’s in a bunch. That’s your problem not mine. I’ll be the first to tell you that it was nothing about being troubled or any type of discipline .. What was said that with all of the publicity the kid had gained, it was a concern that his head was too big. Stats and highlights were more important than team. Just going by what I heard from that literal inside source..and I don’t doubt that at all..I mean you can see it in the team’s play. I said that about John Marshall and none of their fans whined..But yall boys got it. When a kid reaches a certain high level, there will be critiques...Ya know?
Now, this reply is a little different than prior comments about him being "cocky". I think the entire team was on the verge of the "big head" and Graham was gracious enough to wake them up. They're high school kids and Mac went viral. All of a sudden there are cameras and video everywhere in a hole in the wall. The next 3 games were possibly the best they played all year. And if you noticed, the entire team buckled down with an increased emphasis on D. And I won't disagree with your statement about the stats either. But, once again dealing with a HS player. Who wouldn't be concerned with setting records. lol I thought he was relaxed in the title game and just let it flow. Setting that record wasn't on his mind, it was the Gold.
I don’t think I’ve ever called him cocky on this board. I did say that he rubs people the wrong way and if he doesn’t tone it down he’ll have a target on his back . My whole thing of not repeating what I heard was to protect the kid’s integrity.. He is still a kid no matter how big he is as a public figure..That’s why I didn’t want to put any negitivity out.. I never questioned his talent. I question who’s running the show and I question why the coach has the kid in up 50 in the 3rd, but never his talent. I truly hope he sustains it at the next level. Georgetown is due to have a good season.
That crosses the line...nobody is was or will be better than His Airness!
I’m 24 years old so I didn’t get to see Jordan in his prime...LeBron would be tolerable if he just shut up and played. Talk politics and all the other stuff in the off-season. I’ve always been a KD and Westbrook fan myself. Like the way they play and wish they still played together.
After LeCryBaby James cursed out and went off on his coach last night, I’m in the negatives as far as respect for the guy. Aside of the college scholarships he gives out (which are for tax write offs but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt), staying out of legal trouble and being a great father to kids (which he does a great job of), guy just has been a huge pain in the you know what.. Hard to root for the guy when he’s disrespectful and always has his nose in places that he shouldn’t...Takes away from his play...Just my opinion. I get Jordan wasn’t as vocal and I kind of like that. Sports is a good way to get away from politics and drama. These cats in today’s league are the biggest overpaid diva, crybabies you’ll ever find.
Jordan would have played with Lebron like a bored cat does with a mouse.
MJ is a 9 X NBA all 1st team defense.
1988 league MVP and Defensive MVP. Only one other person in NBA history has accomplished that feat and that's Hakeem Olajuwon.
1988 league MVP and Defensive MVP. Only one other person in NBA history has accomplished that feat and that's Hakeem Olajuwon.
I don't agree with much that you say, but I agree 1000000% with this post. Well said.
LMAO, so the rest of Virginia got it wrong. 5 guys from SWVA warned the entire state (millions of people) that Mac was the man and Gate City was the team to beat. Hyperbole is at an all time high in our country these days. Fact is, the overwhelming portion of AA fans in Virginia knew Gate City would be the team to beat and that Mac would be AA player of the year. LMAO on SWVA rooting for the rest of SWVA. The very same team your talking about in Hoops is the one that your board hammers and makes fun of in football. As for those in SWVA having a chip on their shoulder as you implied. Well, this is very true for some, but I suspect not for all. Again, you use hyperbole and classify everyone in SWVA. As for SWVA taking pride in "handing the rest of the state it's #$$<----terms of service violation", well, perhaps if you did some more winning, the chip would leave the shoulder of those that had the chip on their shoulder.
Most in the state of VA recognize Gate City was the best team from game 1 to finish. That's no surprise. As for McClung, I hope he lights it up at GTown. People do have right to critique though. You can't just have all praise (well deserved) and no critique. The critique is......he is in fact, a 3 star. The folks in the Danville and Martinsville aren't stupid to basketball. They know it well. They've won titles and seen some of the best in Virginia's AA and even higher levels for years. In summary, they know talent and have a solid historical basis to go on. Mac in fact, has no ACC offers or SEC offers or Big 12 offers. That's valid and just critique and factual, whether you agree on not. I personally believe he's undervalued as a 3 star, and I feel he will be a first team All Conference type player by his junior year and in the running of honorable mention All American his senior year. But again, people have a right to give critique. Your use of hyperbole "once again" shows your education level. When you classify an entire group of people (everybody outside of SWVA-the entire state of Virginia), it shows EMOTION before rationale thought.
Didn't see it. It had to come fairly late. Regardless, I think he can play in the ACC with the likes of even UNC or Duke. He would fit perfectly in a Duke offense and I'm serious. But.....since I'm not from SWVA, there's no possible way I could think the way I do or have the opinion I do according to sixcat.
He can guard multiple positions 1-5. MJ was maybe best wing defender I saw but he could get out muscled on the block. Not LeBron.
Dennis Rodman couldn’t score like LBJ but a way better ball player imo. Talk about somebody guarding 1-5.
The closest thing I’ve seen to Michael Jordan is Kobe and Russell Westbrook. They’ll never catch the GOAT but a better comparison than LBJ.
Thats crazy talk. Surely you don't actually believe Rodman, with zero offensive game, is in the same realm as LBJ. Rodman is one of best rebounders and defenders ever, but he isn't anywhere close to LeBron. Do you forget what LeBron did when down 3-1 to a 73-win Golden State? C'mon man that's nuts.
Russ can't shoot. Kobe is same style of player, a two guard with a nasty streak, but he wasn't as good defensively. But he's the closest to Jordan in style of play and game. It's tough to compare positions, like Bill Russell v. Jordan or Iverson v. Durant (although Durant >>AI IMO)
I didn't disagree, I even said as much. I said LeBron is an elite defender of multiple positions, which is true and is something Jordan didn't do.
Jordan didn't need to defend all 5 positions. There were plenty of perimeter players 4 him to check. I have seen him play in the post when he needed to. Just ask Patrick Ewing the next time that you see him.
These arguments are actually asinine.
1). Jordan is the more accomplished player, not the better player. Similar to Brady (more accomplished) and Rodgers (better at playing the position). When I have discussions with people about what MJ actually does better the conversation only ever points one direction...winning. Which is a team aspect....not an individual aspect. MJ led those teams without question and was definitely the best player in the game, but, in all actuality the only thing I would prefer MJ over LBJ in is a mid-range offensive game. If people watch the game objectively and take out their emotional love for one player they can see that MJ doesn't defend the ball better, rebound it better, pass it better, shoot it from 3 better, finish at the basket better (not his fault he was 6'6 200 and LBJ is 6'8 255), or even has better longevity. MJ does score the ball at a higher rate (I'm guessing due to shot attempts per game), but I'll concede that point without digging up evidence whether true or not.
2). ESPN has done a great job of painting MJ like he's a mix between Mother Teresa and Barrack Obama. MJ changed the game in the early 90's for everyone and there is an emotional attachment to what he once was, so much so that people can't even critique him....ESPN doesn't help these matters.
3). Let us never forget what MJ went through in the 80's. Perpetual beat downs by the Pistons and Celtics. The Lakers were the quintessential team of the 80's and the Bulls (MJ) could never even get to them. The Bulls took countless beatings by the Celtics and Pistons. People who ACTUALLY understand basketball always bring up the question....who did MJ ever actually beat in the Ship? An OLD LA team, a Portland team with Duckworth and Drexler, a Suns team with Barkley and who...Dan Marjele and Kevin Johnson, a Seattle team with Kemp and Payton (his actual most impressive Finals win), and a Utah team who was severely over the hill. He beat the last 3 (Seattle and Utah 2x) with the help of Kukoc and Rodman. Always remember, Bird and Isaiah used to beat MJ like a child when they played him in the 80's and I wouldn't even begin to imagine what the real Showtime Lakers would have done to him IF he made it out the East.
4). Basketball has WAY to many variables to grant someone the GOAT. When speaking of greatness people who understand basketball always name their "Starting 5" so to speak. Anyone with an IQ over a potato can see that LBJ and MJ would both be on that starting 5.
The countless arguments on this are always fun but at the same time tiresome. People today need to understand that when you're watching LBJ you're watching ONE of the greatest to ever do it. Enjoy it while it lasts.
1). Jordan is the more accomplished player, not the better player. Similar to Brady (more accomplished) and Rodgers (better at playing the position). When I have discussions with people about what MJ actually does better the conversation only ever points one direction...winning. Which is a team aspect....not an individual aspect. MJ led those teams without question and was definitely the best player in the game, but, in all actuality the only thing I would prefer MJ over LBJ in is a mid-range offensive game. If people watch the game objectively and take out their emotional love for one player they can see that MJ doesn't defend the ball better, rebound it better, pass it better, shoot it from 3 better, finish at the basket better (not his fault he was 6'6 200 and LBJ is 6'8 255), or even has better longevity. MJ does score the ball at a higher rate (I'm guessing due to shot attempts per game), but I'll concede that point without digging up evidence whether true or not.
2). ESPN has done a great job of painting MJ like he's a mix between Mother Teresa and Barrack Obama. MJ changed the game in the early 90's for everyone and there is an emotional attachment to what he once was, so much so that people can't even critique him....ESPN doesn't help these matters.
3). Let us never forget what MJ went through in the 80's. Perpetual beat downs by the Pistons and Celtics. The Lakers were the quintessential team of the 80's and the Bulls (MJ) could never even get to them. The Bulls took countless beatings by the Celtics and Pistons. People who ACTUALLY understand basketball always bring up the question....who did MJ ever actually beat in the Ship? An OLD LA team, a Portland team with Duckworth and Drexler, a Suns team with Barkley and who...Dan Marjele and Kevin Johnson, a Seattle team with Kemp and Payton (his actual most impressive Finals win), and a Utah team who was severely over the hill. He beat the last 3 (Seattle and Utah 2x) with the help of Kukoc and Rodman. Always remember, Bird and Isaiah used to beat MJ like a child when they played him in the 80's and I wouldn't even begin to imagine what the real Showtime Lakers would have done to him IF he made it out the East.
4). Basketball has WAY to many variables to grant someone the GOAT. When speaking of greatness people who understand basketball always name their "Starting 5" so to speak. Anyone with an IQ over a potato can see that LBJ and MJ would both be on that starting 5.
The countless arguments on this are always fun but at the same time tiresome. People today need to understand that when you're watching LBJ you're watching ONE of the greatest to ever do it. Enjoy it while it lasts.
LOL!!! That last statement is asinine. Jordan didn't need Dwayne Wade (Hall of Fame), Ray Allen (Hall of Fame), Chris Bosh (Hall of Fame if he doesn't have health problems), and Kyrie Irving (Top 4 PG in basketball) to win. MJ didn't whine and complain about needing more All Stars. LBJ is not one of the greatest to do it. Don't doubt that he's one of the most physically gifted players. #1 MJ and then you have Kareem, Bird, Shaq, Magic, Kobe, Hakeem, BILL RUSSELL, Wilt, some may even argue Timmy D (5 RINGS)...Then maybe add LeBron in there with Charles Barkley, Isiah and those guys. All I will say is 3-5......That's not greatness to me, especially on the teams that LeBron has been on.
