Me too but the media is lacking, especially in Hampton, when it comes to HS box scores these days. I’m hoping Richmond area paper has them. It was a big game somebody has to have the stats
Well said. You would be very surprised at the people calling for a coaching change on that side of town. I wholeheartedly think those people are nuts. HS has had a hell of a run but the kids aren’t buying in like they once did. Johnson’s baby boy is a senior and LJ could be going to greener pastures soon… I think HS will be alright but I wouldn’t be surprised to see them lose to a Glen Allen (yup I said it) or Dale in the playoffs. The Richmond area is deep this year.
HS also has a VERY good RB who will play at the next level. That’s beyond impressive by the Phoebus defense.
So now this is being said? lol EVERYBODY picked Highland Springs before the game and a lot by multiple TDs. Springs was just in the state title and lost by a TD without their best player. Highland Springs is still the best program in the 804 until proven otherwise and I don’t want to hear that they’re not because they lost to Phoebus.
I knew the Phoebus defense was very sound. However, after spending the last hour and a half watching most of the game I quickly realized just how well coached and disciplined the Phantoms are. #0 gets behind the o line and waits patiently for a hole to pop into. The quarterback is very poised and makes great decisions. I especially enjoyed watching #52. He has a great motor and lays the wood on both sides of the ball.
Can't argue against this at all. HSHS is very much still the standard in the 804 until proven otherwise. I don't think they will have much trouble until they get to Oscar Smith in the playoffs.
I hope you're right!! I will agree that what I saw last night, Phoebus' defense IS that good!!
I would've paid good money to have seen this year's Phoebus team play last year's Freedom team!! It's just my imagination, but that would've been cool!
I believe Highland Springs is very talented offensively honestly. They were just out coached and out executed Friday night.
I think we would’ve beat Freedom in 2022 and 23. Trenches
I don’t know what historically good is but I’ve seen Springs, Huguenot, Dinwiddie, and Varina this year and I’d say Springs is the best team of the 4. Just my opinion though I’m sure yall know the behind the scene things that can influence the prediction changes
Comparing this years HS team with HS teams of the past. Same thing for Phoebus, which likely makes you most qualified to answer. Could this years Phantoms squad be better than last year or even better than some of the past teams. I realize there is no way to measure just find that convo interesting to think about.
I can say without a doubt that talent wise this year’s team isn’t better than 2022 or 2023 team because the talent on this team is the left overs from those teams. There’s no Jordan Bass like 22 and no Reddick and Stephenson like 23. The strength of this year’s defense is the back 7 when it’s mainly been the front 4 the past two years. Honestly last year was the year I thought we would’ve took a L because the offense was not hitting until very late in the season.
You wild’n big dawg 😂 HS isn’t better than Huguenot and I got Varina over HS when they play in November. Maury is gonna do the same thing that Phoebus did to HS on Friday. This is a down year for the Springers.
We shall see. My problem with the whole “Hs ain’t that good this year” thing is they were predicted by everyone to beat a 3 time defending state champ returning 16/22 starters, and most had them predicted to win easily. Now they lost and I’m hearing talks that they aren’t that good this year, but this time last week some had them beating Phoebus by 21 smh. Even majority of 757 picked Highland Springs big.
My point is this wasn’t the general observation until Phoebus beat them. It’s unfair to really judge Springs off of Friday. They are a way better team than Phoebus made them look. And you’re right about the lean years but at Phoebus it was really a destroy and rebuild process that Blunt successfully pulled off. This defense most likely won’t be scored on until deep into the playoffs like the last two years.
Go back and look at who I chose in pick em. I wasn’t one of them people and I knew yall would beat them by 2+ scores. HS isn’t the HS of old. That’s not taking anything away from y'all, they just don’t have an offensive identity. @rainman17 hit the hammer on the nail perfectly. Dinwiddie, Dale, Huguenot and I’d even say Varina is better than HS this year.
Nah, they lost a lot last year big homie. They were still very much ehhh at times last year. Henley and Braxton made them go and they had a 4 year starter at QB. Those guys are long gone.
I just remember last week you had Springs # 3 in the state and Phoebus at 5 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
Highland Springs also beat another solid C6 program, who is also down this year, by 35 during week 1. Phoebus didn’t play but still got my top 5 respect 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️. Of course I’d rank Highland Springs and Dinwiddie over y’all after dominating two playoff teams the way that they did and Phoebus hadn’t even played yet. My poll would look very different this week.
Let me chime in. I think this is a very fair observation. I just think it's way too early in the season to say who's having a down year when it comes to the elite programs. What would be the reaction if and when Loren Johnson turns this thing around and HSHS is playing in mid December? People are pushing the panic button on Springs the same way they were pushing the panic button on Phoebus when they played in that scrimmage vs Maury. Champions build off adversity. Phoebus did that after getting embarrassed by Oscar Smith in 2021 and I expect Springs to do the same. They're a proven program with more of less talent. Great coaching and culture with championship proper
I think you can check my track record dating back to last year stating that the Springers weren’t on the same level as they’ve been in their championship years and they still had their studs, mentioned above. I still believe that Varina was a much more complete team than they were last year but. Its in the archives. I’m a firm believer that they’ll be in contention this November but that’s because C6 isn’t exactly 5C or 4B regions 🤷🏽♂️. People act like I’m calling them trash or sorry…
You talk about big homie embarrassing Phoebus but you’re going back and forth about some rankings that a random made on the net. Just my opinion. You’re better than that OG. Good thing Northern Illinois ain’t pay attention to the “real experts” last weekend. You and I both know that rankings don’t mean a thing. Phoebus has the best win in C4 and whether HS is down or turns out to be the C6 champs, it’s hard to win over there.
