State Championship Region B Dinwiddie vs. Region C Kettle Run
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Hello @MaroonDude you often speak of JV teams and to be honest, I am never sure if you are being sarcastic or not. Do you really think having an undefeated/phenomenal JV team really matters? I acknowledge the importance of having a place for up and coming players to learn and grow, but in your opinion do wins at the JV level translate to the Varsity level? If you are being serious about JV play then I am interested in your thoughts. In the past fans from region d have put a lot of emphasis on this. Thanks in advance.
To some posting this video may seem irrelevant regarding this game, but to Dinwiddie fans it is historically relevant. The current Dinwiddie teams statistics basically mimic the 2013 team, those guys serve as mentors for our young Generals, we return to the site of their first State Championship at Liberty University, Kettle Run is eerily similar to the Sherando team we played that day, and the Cougars are Region C Champions. Initially, we even thought the weather forecast was going to be the same. I sure hope not. Please forgive me Warriors posters, I promise this was not intended to pick any scabs. Good luck to both teams and safe travels. Dinwiddie fans enjoy the trip down memory lane and get your butts to Lynchburg on Saturday.
Wow, what a memory. I hope and pray we get to experience it again.
Fair enough. I only commented on someone immediately saying Dinwiddie by 24+. I don’t have a victims mentality either. I wrote a reply to a Kettle Run fan to have hope against Glass saying Region C is underrated and Region D overrated of late usually on these forums. SFoWU poster began to challenge me on it. So we went back and forth, I believe I’m right. Maybe it is because Region C isn’t on here. But it doesn’t really matter the truth comes out on the field Kettle Run 30 EC Glass 14. I respect Region D. I never said Region B is over rated. Dinwiddie is a solid favorite. Region B has been the best Region in the state since 2018 when I started following. I think the last 2 years Region B final was the State final. Even in 2018 Eastern View and Louisa County were good enough to win it all. The Woodgrove coach was preferring to play Lake Taylor as we matched up better against their secondary. Best wishes this week sir.
No problem. I wasn't going after you I just wanted you to know our fans respect everybody. In fact, the 2018 Woodgrove team was on everybody's radar in our little world. Have a blessed day.
A good JV keeps that winning mentality when they are grown enough for varsity. Especially for the backups that are one play away from starting. They get much needed snaps
I tuned in after it was over. It’s not on there anymore. I was only able to watch Stone Bridge/Highland Springs live.
Absolutely. If you have dudes twittling there thumbs for 2 years you never develop those guys that can step in there senior year to plug holes. JV can develop toughness. Also having a great JV team is a reflection that you don't have to pull guys up to play varsity that could be getting seasoning as 9/10 graders. One of the greats once said you loose at least one game for every Freshman you start. Brother, I am always serious about JV football. JV and the 7th grade Wolverines!
Cal Pres is not much but on a neutral field it has Graham favored by 5, Dinwiddie by 16, Riverheads by 14, Phoebus by 21, Highland Springs by 12 and Freedom by 23. I know it does not mean much but that is what they have
Jv should be loaded next year, don’t ya think? Last two eighth grade classes were loaded weren’t they?
Good luck to Dinwiddie! My son met and made friends with a lot of those great young men at Ferrum camp this summer. We are big fans!
This dinwiddie team reminds me of the 2019 hopewell team with Henderson and crew that went 15-0 crushed every team they played except Goochland who in the State semi-finals 35-28 before crushing Lord Botetourt 35-7 hopewell rushed for over 5000 yards they season, dinwiddie is similar to that team. Teams can't stop the run game.
Thank you sir. I was honestly asking for a reason. You made some very sound points. Dinwiddie has some good talent coming up in the middle school and quarterback league, but we usually lose our fair share of JV games. Our varsity program is fairly successful and Coach Mills doesn't mind using young players, so our JV numbers are usually on the low side. I get your point about freshman, but Dalton played in six games as a 14 year old last year and Dinwiddie did not lose a game until the second round of the playoffs. Surely not his fault. Based on declining interest many teams in RVA do not even field JV teams. In fact, the local AAU teams seem to be grabbing this age group as well. It doesn't sound like the Western part of the state are facing these challenges.
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Another part to it is that some areas of the state have strictly 8th and 9th graders on JV. And when you factor in what you are saying with teams bringing up the ones like that, you can have a big discrepancy.
There are actually areas that even run different systems between Varsity and JV, so you can imagine what happens there
I will admit that I was one of the people that believed "Region D is better" and the "Region C is down because BR and Tusky are down" but Kettle Run is a very solid football team. As someone else here stated, they don't make a lot of mistakes and are very well coached. They are faster on defense than most people probably think as well.
Having seen both teams play this year, I would not expect a blowout for either team. I wouldn't even be surprised if Kettle Run got the W.
No dog in this fight. I hope that it is a good, competitive game, just so Kettle Run can prove themselves to some folk, although they don't need to prove anything to anyone at this point. Region C champs and handled Glass who beat Salem. Whatever happens there should be no lack of pride, a season to remember for the Cougars. I do think Region C was probably underrated this year because of the down years for Tusky and BR, so it was cool to see a completely new name break through. Who knows, maybe they will pull a 2018 Woodgrove.
My personal opinion, it is simple-this is Dinwiddie's year. I believe they are the team of destiny, I know plenty of posters for them have been waiting for the break through. I think this is it. Their resume is one of the most impressive I've ever seen in any class in Virginia. For the sake of the Dinwiddie posters, I hope they can pull it off. Good luck to both teams.
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My personal opinion, it is simple-this is Dinwiddie's year. I believe they are the team of destiny, I know plenty of posters for them have been waiting for the break through. I think this is it. Their resume is one of the most impressive I've ever seen in any class in Virginia. For the sake of the Dinwiddie posters, I hope they can pull it off. Good luck to both teams.
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Join us for a send off fit for champs this Saturday morning at 10 a.m. Arrive early and bring your posters, pom poms, and cowbells to make some noise as your home team heads off to take on Kettle Run at Liberty University.
Not ours thank the Lord. Chesterfield schools.
I’m not sure many know how detrimental the AAU is to most schools.
Youth league too. It’s huge in Richmond. That’s how Life Christian came about with the Canes program. That’s how Highland Springs and Varina built their strong programs with Glen Lea (probably the strongest program in Henrico). The West End has a pretty strong history with Laurel. What you’re seeing now is a lot of high school programs in the area bringing in coaches of (or people associated with) these youth leagues in efforts to bring in the better kids from their youth league program. It’s so many teams now and you have any and everybody working with these kids. Go to a youth league game in Richmond. Parents and associates betting big money on these games (most I’ve ever heard of was $500) and you’d think it’s a NFL game instead of an 8U game. It’s unbelievable but it’s real.
That's what I was referring to @BoKnowsSports. The Hurricanes AAU program is a great example. Me and @mbonape1 talked about it Monday. Pretty soon you will need to have ties or you will not be able to compete. Look at Freedom in Woodbridge. The whole team came together from the AAU squad. Best All stars from NOVA playing on one team. The VHSL and schools used to monitor this, but now all sports are run by travel ball programs. HS sports are simply entertainment in big cities.
Yessir. I have mad love for John Marshall, but let’s be real. They are a modern day powerhouse because of Team Loaded. Those boys play Class 2 ball but could win Class 4, 5 and 6 most years. Ty White runs a clean ship but it starts with his AAU program. Lots of coaches in the 757 with Boo Williams and let’s not even start with NoVA, the whole Washington Catholic Athletic Conference and DC public school ball. They have Team Durant, Team Melo, Takeover, New World, DC Premier, Thrill, I mean I can go on and on..
Bo, I played for Glen Lea in the early 2000's. I can say during that time we were always a random mix of Henrico, HSHS, and VHS. From my understanding after leaving for college(2010) Glen Lea basically turned into the HSHS farm system and that coincided with their rise from good team to state powerhouse. I'm not mad at high school coaches getting skin in the game early. But from the stories I heard it was a lot bashing of Varina that was going on for this major shift to happen and most of the in coaches organization happened to start having some HSHS affiliation.
Wow guys, it’s even more pronounced than I thought. Even if it starts out with the right motivation, it almost always morphs into something borderline crooked.
And again, it ain’t the kids, it’s egotistical adults riding the backs of the kids.
Want a blatant example? Life Christian Academy.
And again, it ain’t the kids, it’s egotistical adults riding the backs of the kids.
Want a blatant example? Life Christian Academy.
It was me and i stand by that prediction Dinwiddie by 24
I think the key for Kettle Run is to get the ball first and score (which they are very capable of doing). Punch Dinwiddie right in the mouth. If Dinwiddie gets momentum going it could be a blow out. I think Kettle Run is going to give them all they can handle.
Taking the ball first is very risky against Dinwiddie. If you opt to receive you better move the ball. Punting and giving the Generals a short field could be disastrous. On the other hand, if you choose to kick off you better have a good kick coverage team or you will get the same result. One of our top return men is averaging over 40 yards per return and as a team Dinwiddie averages right at 30. Now I can't disagree with your "punching them in the mouth" theory; however, King George delivered a few haymakers and Dinwiddie got off the canvas and punched them right back. In fact, Heritage, North Stafford, Hanover, and King George all scored early and the Generals prevailed.
I guess the key for Kettle run is simple. They must score their average of 40 points per game and hold Dinwiddie to 10 points below their 50 points per game average to tie. Dinwiddie gives up an average of 9.5 points a game (15 in the playoffs). Kettle Run's offense is good, but is it King George good? Dinwiddie's margin of victory is 40 points and I just don't see the Cougar defense that gives up 18 points a game being able to reduce Dinwiddie's offensive output by 20 points especially on artificial turf. Kettle Run has given up 28 points or more to it's opponents on four occasions. Dinwiddie did so once. If I am wrong I will surely tip my cap to Kettle Run. Again no disrespect intended. Just looking at the numbers.
I guess the key for Kettle run is simple. They must score their average of 40 points per game and hold Dinwiddie to 10 points below their 50 points per game average to tie. Dinwiddie gives up an average of 9.5 points a game (15 in the playoffs). Kettle Run's offense is good, but is it King George good? Dinwiddie's margin of victory is 40 points and I just don't see the Cougar defense that gives up 18 points a game being able to reduce Dinwiddie's offensive output by 20 points especially on artificial turf. Kettle Run has given up 28 points or more to it's opponents on four occasions. Dinwiddie did so once. If I am wrong I will surely tip my cap to Kettle Run. Again no disrespect intended. Just looking at the numbers.
Great video and wow that was a good football team right there! I think this years team DOES resemble this team.... Good luck Generals! You've got this thing! Keep doing what you do!
KR has a chance to win this game but if they aren’t clicking and hitting on all cylinders they’re in for a long day. Dinwiddie will be physical and battle tested a lot more than the contenders and opponents KR has faced thus far. I just see things falling the generals way more than I see KR forcing dinwiddie to beat themselves.
Taking the ball first puts the most pressure on Kettle Run because going 3 & out could be catastrophic against us. I’ve been on record saying that KG would be the only team to give us legitimate problems because of the plethora of athletes they had. That’s one of the best athletically gifted high school football teams I’ve ever seen. This season when we’ve been hit in the mouth idk why, but it wakes us up an we typically respond with points in bunches (Hopewell,Hanover,KG). I know this will be a great game we have to protect the ball better & if we can get pressure on #1 and take him out of his game, while also stifling #9 I like our chances a lot.
Glass did a great job of taking #9 out of the game. He only had 2 catches for 19 yards. However, KR connected on 2 big pass plays for TDs to another WR. All this to say that #9 is their best player but the other guys are better than average as well. Should be a good game.
I would not shift too much attention to Tapscott. Kettle Run has enough weapons to make teams pay when they do that. Especially since Dinwiddie plays in the 3-3 stack. When a balanced defense like that shifts toward one player, it can give the offense a serious advantage on the other half of the field.
I see Dinwiddie as the obvious favorite. If everyone comes into this game healthy I would give Dinwiddie a 90% chance to win. That being said, I suspect Kettle Run to have a great plan and if the offense is humming this could actually be a classic. I am hoping to attend but might have to NFHS.
I asked around my Kettle Run friends and they said that the team came out of Glass as healthy as they went in. Is that the case for Dinwiddie? I saw that their star QB was hobbled a bit in the postgame article I read. If he is even 80% he will be a major issue for Kettle Run and I would stand by my earlier thoughts of a 14-21 point Dinwiddie win.
Do these kids move in or transfer in because of the coach? Why not coach a 6A school if so. Seems like everyone is just playing for 2nd place.
Our quarterback and star defensive player are healthy. Watched them practice on the turf at VA State University yesterday. I will simply say they looked really quick on the turf and Dalton was humming the ball. I look for the Dinwiddie athleticism to be even more prominent on Liberty's field.
I would agree that Kettle Run is well coached and should be prepared. Our defensive backs play man and take pride in it. The Kettle Run receivers are sound, but pale in comparison to Wiggins and White from King George. Coach Mills will not let our boys take the Cougars lightly and basically praised Kettle Run's talent on the radio a few minutes ago. 72 more hours and we shall find out who want this title. Safe travels Cougar fans.
As long as you live in Richmond City and is zoned in one of the 5 comprehensive high school zones, you can apply to go to a specialty high school and play for your home school. I know Jason Nelson who transferred from Varina, went to Open High School and played for Marshall. They can go to Open, Community, Franklin Military and I think there’s another (@EPJr could probably help me out). It’s legal. Ty White has been there a long time (they played Triple A ball against teams 5x their enrollment for years) and Marshall petitioned to play up but was denied by the VHSL.
Great post. I was not aware the Generals beat Heritage so badly. All we have to go on for Phoebus/Dinwiddie similarities are the 25-0 and 28-0 victories over a really good Warwick Raider football team. Typically these things pan out and foretell the coming games. Again great post.
I believe their offense is very good and they can score 30 if things go well (no turnovers/penalties). Can they hold Dinwiddie below that? Probably not. Loudoun County which has a very good offense (but not as good as Dinwiddie) scored 34 against them. Looking at it this way tells me Dinwiddie by 14. If Kettle Run can get a couple of turnovers it will be close. The second guy in on the tackle should be punching that football for Kettle Run.
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