Gimme the Varina Blue Devils. The Dinwiddie Generals are the best/most complete team in C4 though. Who y’all got?
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I was thankful to get a follow from Coach Mills a few weeks ago. I have been monitoring the Generals’ page for updates and saw this today. The offense will be absolutely loaded and the defense will be led by a very good player in Se’von McDowell.I don't know if Dinwiddie is the most complete team, but I think they are much better than I thought they would be at this time of the year. The defensive backfield which I thought would be a major concern is fast and talented. Next Friday's game is very important. Aside from making a statement by beating another state champion a win will keep the Generals in contention for a home playoff game. I know it sounds crazy, but Maury will be a tough get. Can't afford to have two much less three losses in Region B. After seeing Phoebus in the state final and knowing they along with Varina have star studded defenses I have to consider both of them as a major threat. I know this is cowardly, but I will say the winner of the semi final between b and a will take the title. Go Generals! #boom
The Generals will be no worse than 9-1, with that one L possibly coming in Ohio. I believe that this may be KG’s year to get the 1 seed. They will more than likely be the only undefeated team out of the bunch. Varina, KG and Dinwiddie are the premier teams in 4B. Huguenot will be very talented but they will not contend with the top 3. Had Huguenot played a harder OOD I’d say they would have a better chance, but I don’t see it this year. Very very young team. Them and Varina can possibly be 2018 Highland Springs and Manchester good in a few years.Yeah @BoKnowsSports , McDowell is a very talented linebacker. He times his blitzes well and is a sure tackler. Don't be surprised if he doesn't turn out to be a threat on offense as well. He has great hands. We are a little light in the britches at spots, but our team speed is unreal. This team will put up the points and if they get key stops it will be at least a 7-8 win regular season. Hopefully, better. I know you have Huguenot high on your list, but I just don't quite see them getting a top four seed in Region B. Tough to win on the road in the playoffs with a young team. I know for darn sure the Falcons are not going to shut us out. That has only happened once in the past 15 years and Hopewell did it in 2018 on a rain soaked field. Peety Pope had a broken hand and couldn't pass. T. Henderson was caught for a loss, but reversed field andbtook to the house for a 85 yard TD for the only score of the game.
How did Hopewell do against Herm tonight?Dinwiddie has a tough schedule, including the central district Dale, matoaca and hopewell all will be a tough out and much improved this year.
I believe Maury is the team we’d struggle with if there is a Loss on our schedule. But one thing about Coach Mills teams they will be prepared for everything when the Time comes. Next Saturday will tell me a lot about the resolve of this team. The time has come 😈 #BLEEDNAVYThe Generals will be no worse than 9-1, with that one L possibly coming in Ohio. I believe that this may be KG’s year to get the 1 seed. They will more than likely be the only undefeated team out of the bunch. Varina, KG and Dinwiddie are the premier teams in 4B. Huguenot will be very talented but they will not contend with the top 3. Had Huguenot played a harder OOD I’d say they would have a better chance, but I don’t see it this year. Very very young team. Them and Varina can possibly be 2018 Highland Springs and Manchester good in a few years.
From what I'm hearing hopewell beat up on Hermitage, but it's just a scrimmage.How did Hopewell do against Herm tonight?
I heard the same. Heard that Herm’s QB threw a prayer up and the WR caught it on Hopewell’s backups.From what I'm hearing hopewell beat up on Hermitage, but it's just a scrimmage.
Mannnn this is so crazy from Herm. Going to be a long season for them.I heard the same. Heard that Herm’s QB threw a prayer up and the WR caught it on Hopewell’s backups.
Mannnn this is so crazy from Herm. Going to be a long season
It's a scrimmage so there is time for times to correct the mistakes, Hopewell has a good team with alot of talent but Scrimmages are for getting things right before the season starts.Mannnn this is so crazy from Herm. Going to be a long season for them.
Mannnn this is so crazy from Herm. Going to be a long season for them.
The wild thing about it all, the young boys they had were going to reload that program and I truly believe, they would’ve won the state championship this year or next with HS moving up to C6. Herm didn’t lose a JV game COVID year or in 2021 (tied with Varina). They demolished teams with 8th graders.Mannnn this is so crazy from Herm. Going to be a long season for them.
I’ll give my prediction September 2nd. Wasn’t really impressed with what I saw at the Dinwiddie/Oscar Smith scrimmage tbh but it’s a scrimmage where the QB wasn’t live so it’s hard to really judge. I have super confidence Mills will correct some things and have that team ready by playoffs.
I just know September 1st might be a very bad night for Oscar Smith.
No Phoebus Vs Oscar Smith September 1stWhy, they playing Mater Dei this time? 🤣
Salem is 5 imo, Dinwiddie and Varina by far have the toughest schedule in class 4. Varina actually may have the toughest schedule playing the top 2 teams is Class 6 in HSHS and Freedom, they will definitely be battle tested when playoff time rolls around. No team they see in class 4 will be that more talented than what they face in HSHS and Freedom.At the moment my gut says Phoebus. With KG 2nd. Phoebus just feels like a juggernaut. I can't wait for their early season matchup with Oscar Smith.
The KG WRs to me are like Golden States 3 point shooting. They might not be the best overall team but they have what I consider the equalizer. Especially with the new QB transfer.
3 Salem
4 Dinwiddie
5 Varina
@Thomasddev might agree with you on strength of schedule but the Dinwiddie schedule is killer and the Ohio team is a wild card with Ted Guinn as the coach. Freedom is loaded and basically an AAU program and we know Springs is elite. Dinwiddie has Maury too though… close call. If you have already answered this my apologies… who do you think wins class 4 region B?Salem is 5 imo, Dinwiddie and Varina by far have the toughest schedule in class 4. Varina actually may have the toughest schedule playing the top 2 teams is Class 6 in HSHS and Freedom, they will definitely be battle tested when playoff time rolls around. No team they see in class 4 will be that more talented than what they face in HSHS and Freedom.
Toss up between Varina and Dinwiddie for winner 4B, IMO, King George will be there as well but I don't know how they will look being there qb graduated last year. Varina and Dinwiddie will be so battle tested with that SOS, I don't think any other team will be able to match them in class 4b@Thomasddev might agree with you on strength of schedule but the Dinwiddie schedule is killer and the Ohio team is a wild card with Ted Guinn as the coach. Freedom is loaded and basically an AAU program and we know Springs is elite. Dinwiddie has Maury too though… close call. If you have already answered this my apologies… who do you think wins class 4 region B?
KG had a good QB transfer in. I don't remember from where, but they should still be pretty solid.Toss up between Varina and Dinwiddie for winner 4B, IMO, King George will be there as well but I don't know how they will look being there qb graduated last year. Varina and Dinwiddie will be so battle tested with that SOS, I don't think any other team will be able to match them in class 4b
I was leaning towards Freedom and HS to win those games but Varina has the horses this year to make both games really close. Varina is loaded man. As good as Eric Smith is, DaMari Carter may have that same kind of breakout sophomore year Harry Dalton had. The kid is insanely talented. Their offense will be special.Salem is 5 imo, Dinwiddie and Varina by far have the toughest schedule in class 4. Varina actually may have the toughest schedule playing the top 2 teams is Class 6 in HSHS and Freedom, they will definitely be battle tested when playoff time rolls around. No team they see in class 4 will be that more talented than what they face in HSHS and Freedom.
Lol. @southbottomU, I don't think anyone is overlooking or discounting Salem and surely we aren't heading down the Salem disrespect road that may have occurred 10 years ago. That's a long time to be an alleged victim and that boat obviously doesn't sail anymore. Lets be real here, other than Salem fans themselves when is the last time someone questioned the Spartans? In fact, for most of the current posters Salem is just expected to be there come playoff time. Isn't that a sign of respect? Food for thought, nobody really buys the line that the Spartans interior line and QB play is suspect. Unless you live under a rock everybody is aware of the talent the Spartans have this season. Salem has maybe three challenges on their regular season schedule (LCA, PH, and FC). No offense to Glass, GW, or other possible contenders in region d, but unless the Spartans take a dump they will be a semi finalist.I'm loving the way this year is shaping up in the press and on this board. Most of the attention (rightfully so) is on the eastern Virginia schools of Phoebus. Dinwiddie, King George, and Varina.
Salem is relatively under the radar.
Western Virginia schools have been seen as slow and not as talented in the past. Salem disproved that theory on a number of occasions. This years Salem team has some question marks at qb and interior line play, but early reports have been quite favorable in that area. The talent in the backfield (both backs) Linebackers, Defensive backfield, and tight end, is as good or better than anyone in Division 4. I would say, at least this. The Road to the State Finals still goes thru Salem.
Was just saying I like the position Salem is in. Not the favorites and fairly ignored by Eastern press and fans (Dinwiddie fans in general and especially knowledgeable fans like yourself are the exception). We have not played King George, Varina and Phoebus (Phoebus maybe once 60 years ago). I also said those teams deserve the hype (last 2 State Champs and a rising talented program). However. I like it when Salem is the underdog and rated 5th or 6th in Division 4.Lol. @southbottomU, I don't think anyone is overlooking or discounting Salem and surely we aren't heading down the Salem disrespect road that may have occurred 10 years ago. That's a long time to be an alleged victim and that boat obviously doesn't sail anymore. Lets be real here, other than Salem fans themselves when is the last time someone questioned the Spartans? In fact, for most of the current posters Salem is just expected to be there come playoff time. Isn't that a sign of respect? Food for thought, nobody really buys the line that the Spartans interior line and QB play is suspect. Unless you live under a rock everybody is aware of the talent the Spartans have this season. Salem has maybe three challenges on their regular season schedule (LCA, PH, and FC). No offense to Glass, GW, or other possible contenders in region d, but unless the Spartans take a dump they will be a semi finalist.
Yes, we do spend a lot of time talking about the East. I guess that's because the majority of the current Class 4 posters support teams from Regions A/B and it's so competitive. Nobody has a clue about Region C teams. They rarely have fans that post and the Region D posters from (Salem, Amherst, Jefferson Forest, Glass, Sherando) don't really mix it up anymore. I can remember in 2013, when the "West" dominated this board.
On a personal note I think Salem is a top five team in Class 4; however, I don't know where they fall right now. Somewhere between 2-5. My gut tells me the Spartans make the finals.
You can't win even if you did pick Salem. Numerous writers picked Salem to beat Lake Taylor in 2015 and had them ranked ahead of LT going into the game and Spartan fans still wanted to play underdog. I picked Salem to beat Lake Taylor in 2015 and got blasted for it and no apologies even after they won the game. Anyway by the end of last season Phoebus, Dinwiddie and King George were even based on similar opponents and final scores. If the graduation bug has been kind the D4 state playoffs should be unlike any playoffs ever seen. I'm sticking with Phoebus for another 3peat.Lol. @southbottomU, I don't think anyone is overlooking or discounting Salem and surely we aren't heading down the Salem disrespect road that may have occurred 10 years ago. That's a long time to be an alleged victim and that boat obviously doesn't sail anymore. Lets be real here, other than Salem fans themselves when is the last time someone questioned the Spartans? In fact, for most of the current posters Salem is just expected to be there come playoff time. Isn't that a sign of respect? Food for thought, nobody really buys the line that the Spartans interior line and QB play is suspect. Unless you live under a rock everybody is aware of the talent the Spartans have this season. Salem has maybe three challenges on their regular season schedule (LCA, PH, and FC). No offense to Glass, GW, or other possible contenders in region d, but unless the Spartans take a dump they will be a semi finalist.
Yes, we do spend a lot of time talking about the East. I guess that's because the majority of the current Class 4 posters support teams from Regions A/B and it's so competitive. Nobody has a clue about Region C teams. They rarely have fans that post and the Region D posters from (Salem, Amherst, Jefferson Forest, Glass, Sherando) don't really mix it up anymore. I can remember in 2013, when the "West" dominated this board.
On a personal note I think Salem is a top five team in Class 4; however, I don't know where they fall right now. Somewhere between 2-5. My gut tells me the Spartans make the finals.
@Kenneth Harris, I hope you are wrong, but Phoebus is surely going to be a tough out. If their offense can match the defense watch out. I would love to get them back at our place again, but I see the Phantoms having home field advantage throughout the playoffs. I don't see Varina or Dinwiddie going unbeaten and King George's schedule will not garner enough points to earn a semi final home game.You can't win even if you did pick Salem. Numerous writers picked Salem to beat Lake Taylor in 2015 and had them ranked ahead of LT going into the game and Spartan fans still wanted to play underdog. I picked Salem to beat Lake Taylor in 2015 and got blasted for it and no apologies even after they won the game. Anyway by the end of last season Phoebus, Dinwiddie and King George were even based on similar opponents and final scores. If the graduation bug has been kind the D4 state playoffs should be unlike any playoffs ever seen. I'm sticking with Phoebus for another 3peat.
Lol. @southbottomU, I don't think anyone is overlooking or discounting Salem and surely we aren't heading down the Salem disrespect road that may have occurred 10 years ago. That's a long time to be an alleged victim and that boat obviously doesn't sail anymore. Lets be real here, other than Salem fans themselves when is the last time someone questioned the Spartans? In fact, for most of the current posters Salem is just expected to be there come playoff time. Isn't that a sign of respect? Food for thought, nobody really buys the line that the Spartans interior line and QB play is suspect. Unless you live under a rock everybody is aware of the talent the Spartans have this season. Salem has maybe three challenges on their regular season schedule (LCA, PH, and FC). No offense to Glass, GW, or other possible contenders in region d, but unless the Spartans take a dump they will be a semi finalist.
Yes, we do spend a lot of time talking about the East. I guess that's because the majority of the current Class 4 posters support teams from Regions A/B and it's so competitive. Nobody has a clue about Region C teams. They rarely have fans that post and the Region D posters from (Salem, Amherst, Jefferson Forest, Glass, Sherando) don't really mix it up anymore. I can remember in 2013, when the "West" dominated this board.
On a personal note I think Salem is a top five team in Class 4; however, I don't know where they fall right now. Somewhere between 2-5. My gut tells me the Spartans make the finals.
Varina is definitely loaded, especially at skill positions. Varina will be able to match up with HSHS and Freedom at the skill positions but I feel they will struggle in the trenches. HSHS and Freedom have massive O Lines.I was leaning towards Freedom and HS to win those games but Varina has the horses this year to make both games really close. Varina is loaded man. As good as Eric Smith is, DaMari Carter may have that same kind of breakout sophomore year Harry Dalton had. The kid is insanely talented. Their offense will be special.
Y’all haven’t been to Darling yet though! Y’all just can’t bring that cannon lol. Y’all boys had Warwick SHOOK when it went off the first time lol@Kenneth Harris, I hope you are wrong, but Phoebus is surely going to be a tough out. If their offense can match the defense watch out. I would love to get them back at our place again, but I see the Phantoms having home field advantage throughout the playoffs. I don't see Varina or Dinwiddie going unbeaten and King George's schedule will not garner enough points to earn a semi final home game.
Man i wish the VHSL would let Phoebus take Denbigh and Gloucester off our schedule permanently! Since COVID it’s made it easier for those teams to simply refuse to play us.The only thing I wish is that the VHSL would alternate opponents each year. That would make for some absolutely BANANAS matchups. Or maybe I’m just stuck in the old AAA Days 🥺
I agree here… but truth be told, Varina could lose to both Freedom and HSHS and still be the best team in class 4. We just won’t know bc of how good those two programs are.Varina is definitely loaded, especially at skill positions. Varina will be able to match up with HSHS and Freedom at the skill positions but I feel they will struggle in the trenches. HSHS and Freedom have massive O Lines.